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(Newsweek) California Law Allows Doctors To Send Abortion Pills Anonymously

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California law allows doctors to send abortion pills anonymously

The measure would also keep abortion drugs like mifepristone available even if the FDA revokes its approval.
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The bill, which was approved by wide margins in the state Assembly and Senate earlier this month, will allow health care providers to mail abortion pills with only a minimum of identifying information: Medication labels and paperwork in the packages could omit the name of the patient, prescriber and pharmacist.
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Pharmacists who leave identifying information off the medication will instead have to record it in a log that law enforcement can only see through a subpoena, and which out of state entities will be barred from seeing.
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It seems this bill is expressly to allow anonymous online prescribing and shipping of abortion drugs (i.e. "the morning after pill") to Red State recipients where the drugs are otherwise outlawed.

The shipping package, and the medication label, will omit the name of the patient, the prescriber, and the dispensing pharmacist.

The dispensing pharmacist will log the omitted information in a record book in the pharmacy, where it can only be accessed by judicial subpoena. However, out-of-state subpoenas will not be honored.
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Quite honestly, if you or I tried a scheme like this with a controlled substance, we'd probably end-up in the clink! But if a state does it, who's going to stop it?

I suppose it now comes to whether Trump will try to intervene on the Federal level.
 
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j brown's body said:
Brilliant.
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Scary!

The pill bottles will not even have a patient name, much less prescriber or dispenser.

If involved in a police stop in some non-California state, how can it be determined to be a legal prescription?
 
Do they allow random pills to be sent into California anonymously? Claiming to be... I guess it doesn't matter, does it?
 
Taylor said:
Do they allow random pills to be sent into California anonymously? Claiming to be... I guess it doesn't matter, does it?
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No idea. It all sounds a bit dicey, to me.

During the era of my High School years and into my early twenties, prescription uppers & downers were the rage. The police busted kids who had loose pharmaceutical pills not in a legal prescription bottle.

It's my memory of this, that got me interested in the OP article.
 
Chomsky said:
www.newsweek.com

California law allows doctors to send abortion pills anonymously

The measure would also keep abortion drugs like mifepristone available even if the FDA revokes its approval.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com
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It seems this bill is expressly to allow anonymous online prescribing and shipping of abortion drugs (i.e. "the morning after pill") to Red State recipients where the drugs are otherwise outlawed.

The shipping package, and the medication label, will omit the name of the patient, the prescriber, and the dispensing pharmacist.

The dispensing pharmacist will log the omitted information in a record book in the pharmacy, where it can only be accessed by judicial subpoena. However, out-of-state subpoenas will not be honored.
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Quite honestly, if you or I tried a scheme like this with a controlled substance, we'd probably end-up in the clink! But if a state does it, who's going to stop it?

I suppose it now comes to whether Trump will try to intervene on the Federal level.
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He has no authority to do so.

The third-reich-wing states can suck it.
 
Chomsky said:
I don't think that can be assumed.
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This is all a state issue. He LITERALLY cannot intervene in state issues. This is why Tina Peters' domestic terrorist MAGA ass is still in prison.
Chomsky said:
The Interstate Commerce Clause reaches pretty deeply.
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It doesn't apply here.
 
ColdHardTruth said:
This is all a state issue. He LITERALLY cannot intervene in state issues. This is why Tina Peters' domestic terrorist MAGA ass is still in prison.

It doesn't apply here.
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It wouldn't apply to regulating commerce between the states?
 
Chomsky said:
Scary!

The pill bottles will not even have a patient name, much less prescriber or dispenser.

If involved in a police stop in some non-California state, how can it be determined to be a legal prescription?
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Someone isn't too likely to be driving around with abortion pills on them though, unless it's just from the post office box to their home.
 
Demon said:
Someone isn't too likely to be driving around with abortion pills on them though, unless it's just from the post office box to their home.
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Blue states will not have issues with that.

The third-reich-wing states might which is why it is all anonymous.
 
ColdHardTruth said:
Congress and the courts are given that authority. The executive branch is not in charge of it.
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Alright, that a fair reply and you might be right.

My concern with Trump is he uses the guise of "emergencies" to get around Congress, and I don't know if Congress ceded authority to him in these matters too.

We know only Congress can do tariffs, but it hasn't stopped Trump yet!
 
Chomsky said:
www.newsweek.com

California law allows doctors to send abortion pills anonymously

The measure would also keep abortion drugs like mifepristone available even if the FDA revokes its approval.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com
--


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It seems this bill is expressly to allow anonymous online prescribing and shipping of abortion drugs (i.e. "the morning after pill") to Red State recipients where the drugs are otherwise outlawed.

The shipping package, and the medication label, will omit the name of the patient, the prescriber, and the dispensing pharmacist.

The dispensing pharmacist will log the omitted information in a record book in the pharmacy, where it can only be accessed by judicial subpoena. However, out-of-state subpoenas will not be honored.
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Quite honestly, if you or I tried a scheme like this with a controlled substance, we'd probably end-up in the clink! But if a state does it, who's going to stop it?

I suppose it now comes to whether Trump will try to intervene on the Federal level.
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I hope it works. 👍
 
Chomsky said:
Alright, that a fair reply and you might be right.

My concern with Trump is he uses the guise of "emergencies" to get around Congress, and I don't know if Congress ceded authority to him in these matters too.

We know only Congress can do tariffs, but it hasn't stopped Trump yet!
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He way try.

In the end, he and those who help him will be held accountable.
 
Demon said:
Someone isn't too likely to be driving around with abortion pills on them though, unless it's just from the post office box to their home.
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Still, they will be in possession of a controlled substance with no present physical proof of its legality.
 
Chomsky said:
Still, they will be in possession of a controlled substance with no present physical proof of its legality.
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True. I just think their odds of being caught with them are very slim. I just don't see anyone carrying them around. It's not like taking some ecstasy around with them for a party.
 
Chomsky said:
In it's ability to allow anonymous shipping of controlled substances to states specifically banning them.

Now whether one thinks this is a good thing, would be up to them.
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The responses are very telling.
 
Demon said:
True. I just think their odds of being caught with them are very slim. I just don't see anyone carrying them around. It's not like taking some ecstasy around with them for a party.
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"Odds of getting caught" are neither hear nor there. That there might be criminal legal liability for the end-user, is my concern.
 
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