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OT - If you haven't seen this before, check it out. Zappa's last live performance. It's BS until about 5:30, but then...
I flippin' LOVE Zappa, esp his instrumental/non-vocal work.
OT - If you haven't seen this before, check it out. Zappa's last live performance. It's BS until about 5:30, but then...
Shut Up and Play Yer Guitar...:applaud
Which news graph do YOU think is more accurate?
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-- Structure of ArgumentsWTH are you talking about?
I'm accusing you of bias.
Well, then prove that I am because an unfounded accusation is of no merit. Just be sure not to use any of the lines of doing so that are described here: Click here.
If you aren't biased why didn't you present all sides of the argument?
The New American is only listed in the second graph. The only way Infowars can be classified as "freedom" would be that it illustrates the freedom to be a total nutcase.
Hmmmm, I find that interesting, any possibility you can clarify, maybe with either an example or a demonstrable working model that you say represents their methodology? (I'll take it at face value and look for myself to see if I notice similarities)
This was around the time that Vaclav Havel had decided to appoint Zappa as "Cultural Ambassador to the Czech Republic", a move that spurred Howard Baker to threaten to remove all financial help from the Bush administration, thus the appointment, albeit a symbolic one, was rescinded.
So I'm happy to hear the "BS" that comes before the music, it's all part of the love that the Czech people had for FZ.
I'm sorry I used "BS" there - the intent was to point anyone clicking the video to the spot where Frank actually starts playing.
Frank's comments during the first few minutes are very much worth taking in, especially given the social and political situation in the country where he was performing and the fact he had been diagnosed with terminal cancer a year prior. I've watched the whole thing several times.
Vox as ‘garbage left?
I don’t think so.
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That's a very good example of Confirmation Bias on your part. Nothing wrong with that, as long as we all recognize that it exists in us all, and recognize when it happens. I find myself questioning my own perceptions all the time, due to my own confirmation bias.
I haven't been able to find the tape recording since we moved in 2014 but the year before that, Frank was exploring the idea of running for President. He went on KLI 640 AM in L.A. and did an interview and took calls, and I was lucky to talk to him.
He would have been good for the 1A. I'm really not familiar with any other political stances he held.
I count myself lucky to have seen him perform once - Overnite Sensation / Apostrophe era. I had a couple of other opportunities to see him which I regret having passed on. He had so much material and I was really only into maybe half of it, so I was afraid he might just play what I wasn't into.
Dweezil is coming here later in the year:
https://www.dweezilzappa.com/pages/tour-dates
and I'll be checking that out. Saw him play on the Experience Hendrix tour last year with a bunch of other guitarists.
2017 Experience Hendrix Tour ? The All-Star Concert Event of the Year
It has nothing to do with confirmation bias.
Vox has some pretty impressive writers with well thought out policy positions.
It’s left leaning, certainly.
But is it the left equivalent of Breitbart or the Daily Caller? No.
He was pretty much a left leaning libertarian, but I am going to make a guess that he was pragmatic about his libertarian ideas.
That would have been my guess.
Funny, that's the way I would describe myself. I just don't like to use the libertarian label generally because there are ideas associated with that label that I hate. Knee jerk anti-state and corporatist stuff, mostly. I don't believe the "market" works without rules and oversight. I also believe in a reasonable social safety net.
It just boils down to pragmatism.
There are a great many libertarians who are true believers to the point of ridicule.
But it seems like we might miss the quieter voices of the less sensational but more rational libertarians who accept that some of their goals are very aspirational, and tied to an elevated level of enlightenment which does not exist yet.
Examples: We can eliminate all corporate regulation once mankind demonstrates that they have the superior ethics to make such a thing possible. Therefore, they want to work to see ethics raised to that level.
They demand privatization of as much infrastructure as possible, provided that private ownership does not create an environment where corporate fiefdoms infringe upon the rights of natural persons, therefore they work to promote the rights of natural persons over corporate power.
I've heard libertarians like Penn Jillette admit that some of what they aspire to is unworkable in present day, but it doesn't mean that they cease working toward it. It just means that they're willing to cast a vote for a candidate and then try to implement their ideas at a more local level instead.
As a LIBERAL, I know that some of what liberalism aspires to is pie in the sky. I just try to support the parts of liberalism which are feasible. I'll compromise with a conservative if I know that we have enough common ground.
I think you're right. I can work toward a common solution with anyone who comes to the table willing to work out a mutually agreeable deal. Extremes don't appeal to me.
That's what we all need to be willing to do. ALWAYS.
These last few years we've been paying too much attention to the extremes and ignoring the vast majority of moderates.
Moderate conservatives, liberals, libertarians, etc all need to recognize and entertain the fact that we do have common ground, common values and common goals.
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