disneydude
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And I am on the opinion they are not born that way.........
Well if you don't know....why take the side that discriminates?
I was brought up differently. I was taught that if you don't know...you go with the side the promotes equality and fairness.
I've often thought the same thing. Just a hunch, but I'd go so far as to say that the group of "choosers" would be made up of more women than men. I know at least a couple of "lesbians" from college who are now happily married soccer-moms.
Then again, are "those who choose" just bisexual?
My reasons are well documented and you know that................
And I am on the opinion they are not born that way.........
That is kinda how I see it, though kinda from the opposite view. I see most gay women discover they are gay, while most gay men kinda always know, if you follow the reasoning. When I was young, a saying in the gay community was "gay men are born, lesbians are made".
And I am on the opinion they are not born that way.........
But my suggestion explains the data available better than yours......
We will have to agree to disagree because I firmly believe they are not born that way otherwise they could not change...........Just like a black person can't change...........
And I am on the opinion they are not born that way.........
I'm no scientist, but it seems to make sense from a biological standpoint.That is kinda how I see it, though kinda from the opposite view. I see most gay women discover they are gay, while most gay men kinda always know, if you follow the reasoning. When I was young, a saying in the gay community was "gay men are born, lesbians are made".
Its really a cop out to call these people BI and it seems that every time you on the left are backed in a corner on the subject you bring thr Bi thing in.................The people that changed most of the time deny that........
Seems to me, Navy, that if it's possible to wake up tomorrow and decide you want to be gay, you'd want to make sure gays have rights too, because you might make that choice.
We will have to agree to disagree because I firmly believe they are not born that way otherwise they could not change...........Just like a black person can't change...........
the first amendment is merely a minimum requirement.
libertarians against freedom and democracy or who are for limited freedom and democracy. i see.
Navy you know genetically its very unclear there cant be something as clear as a gay gene.However i have met several people who are only interested in the same sex as themselves quite clearly.
Why should that bother you? Why not let them be and also if you believe in special rights for married straight couples why not for gay couples? From my point of view its both or none.
He said that he COULD make the choice to be gay...not that we would.
(Just to be technical)
That's the crux of the argument IMO. To me biology isn't relevant. If I'm hardwired to be attracted to 10 partners simultaneously, that doesn't mean we should enact a marraige law that concords with my "biology."Why not let them be and also if you believe in special rights for married straight couples why not for gay couples? From my point of view its both or none.
What I am saying, and what is clearly going over your head, is that some people can change, some cannot. That explains how some can change and lead happy lives, and how some people are very clearly very set in their orientation.
Lets get something clear....I could care less what gays or straights do in the privacy of the bedroom.....I just don't want to know about it........I am for gays having the same rights I have......I believe that can be accomplished through Civil Unions...I don't consider getting married a right..Its a privilege.........I believe in the sanctity of marriage and want it to remain the way it is today for the reasons I have posted a 100 times in this forum.......Gays have the same option I have...they can marry someone of the opposite sex..........I don't believe gays should marry, nor polygamysts, nor anyone identified by a class or sexual preference, nor I don't believe brothers and sisters, mothers and daughters. etc should marry for the benefits even if they remain celebrant........
No, he said it was "highly unlikely" for him. Which means for everyone.
Whether he would is irrelevant.
Celebrant! What a perfect wrong word to use! Awesome. :doh
So you support civil unions? Fine. Good enough for me.
I can't speak for everyone else.
If you had been around here for more then 5 minutes you would know that.........
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