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He thinks pain meds during labor means no pain.:lamo
Now that is funny. Thanks.:lamo
Good point. It's probably not nearly as painful as the real deal, which reinforces my point about men not being able to handle it.
BTW, there are lots of women who do natural childbirth with no pain meds.
Which specific rational response?
Who's body is it? There is the simple answer to your question.
You were using the justification of who was having the medical procedure as the reason he should/could be barred. I was pointing out it is a medical procedure for both mother and child.
I get its the mother's body. I am for the man not gaining entry to the birthing room. I am also for his immediate access to the child after birth.
You're welcome.
BTW, that last post was not an insult. The quote, "Are you still beating your wife?" is a commonly known example of a loaded question -- a logical fallacy; -- the facts are presupposed by the question. Forgive me if you were not aware of that; my apology if you thought I was offering that quote as an insult.
Hopefully you will be able to use this information. It might even qualify as being something of "intellectual merit".
LOL why do you post lies, nobody honest, educated and objective buys themIOW, you can't name a single one. that's what I thought.... :laughat:
The baby is a PART of the mother's body, as they are connected by the umbilical cord. The baby is a part of the mother until the umbilical cord is cut. Yes, it is the mother undergoing a procedure. HER name is used to schedule the procedure. It is not mother and baby, just mom's name and information. Baby is NOT yet a separate person from mom.
I'm not going to play your silly game with you. Find someone else.
Sure, the baby is not undergoing a procedure. Got it.
Sure, the baby is not undergoing a procedure. Got it.
As far as I'm concerned, they're both patients. Just because the dad isn't going into labor per se, doesn't make him any less important to the situation.
That's why parents-to-be that are so concerned about an upcoming child say things like "we're pregnant". You're just opening the door to men abandoning their responsibilities because they're not considered to be of value.
Long story short, your attitude contributes to more "sperm donors". It makes me glad I never put a ring on a vitriolic bag of emotions, just because she had a nice rack.
All that glitters is not gold, it seems.
LOL why do you post lies, nobody honest, educated and objective buys them
another post with nothing to over, no surprise. Let us know when you have something on topic and that matters
let us know if you ever plan on backing up a single claim you ever make. I won't hold my breath.....
already done lol
this is why you are left with nothing, you have ZERO argument against my posts
this doesn't violate his legal rights in anyway
men and women BOTH have the SAME right to privacy
both facts both, backed up :shrug:
blah, blah, blah. do you just cut and paste the same lame crappola from thread to thread?
She's no mother. She's just a cum dumpster the man was unfortunate enough not to pull out of in time.
A good mother wouldn't deny the father of her child a once-in-a-lifetime experience because she's a miserable sack of crap.
Wow, the hatred of women on this thread is just astounding.
Wow, the hatred of women on this thread is just astounding.
Women that don't act that way, don't get hated on.
As far as I'm concerned, they're both patients. Just because the dad isn't going into labor per se, doesn't make him any less important to the situation.
LOLOLOL
He is completely irrelevant to the situation, totally unneeded, and according to the mother & medical statistics, could actually be detrimental.
He's not in the least important to the delivery...it will take place even if he is dead.
Unless SHE see's it that way, he has ZERO value in the delivery room. And she has made it clear she does not.
If he wishes to be more than a sperm donor, he has 18 years to prove it...countdown starts post vag-exit.
If that's the case, don't seek any support for the child...
If that's the case, don't seek any support for the child...
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