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my only issue with the ipad and by extension most tablets is that they arent worth the price.
i could buy a pretty decent laptop for the same $ and get far more memory, processing power, storage, etc.
Buy the iPad 2 instead.. it will be cheaper. Or even better, buy the new Asus tablet and break the strangle hold Apple has on you.
The new iPad is a joke beyond comparison.
Yes it has a HD screen, and so ****ing what. The screen is still only 9.7 inches, so viewing a movie on it not exactly optimale but you cant see any real difference between HD and non HD movies at that size.
On top of that, you have LTE.. wupti du. LTE contracts have a 5 to 10 GB a month download max.. which basically means 1 full HD movie if at that. And the bugger only works in the US... own goal Apple! The frequencies used in Europe are different, so they better change those before they start selling it...
On top of that.. the space on the iPad is no where near enough for HD movies...A real HD 1080p movie (depending on length) is between 6 to 15 GB. Avatar in MKV format in 1080p is 17GB. And you have no possibility to add extra space.
And if you want to stream your new HD movie onto a real TV, buy an extra adaptor for HDMI out, or the new Apple TV for 99 bucks. The cost of using Apple products just goes up and up and up , while the competition delivers it out of the box... /clap.
iOS update... playing catchup... it is still outdated and very worn OS. Reminds me of Symbian.
But it is good to see Apple has joined the 21st century when it comes to HD.. and not the 480 fake HD they have been scamming their customers off with for years
Your entire post made me chuckle. That's all I really got to say. Nothing I could say would convince you of how well built the product is. You don't even really seem to know how to utilize your own tablet experience properly so....
Never said it was not well built. But so is the Asus Transformer which is considerably cheaper and has the same screen as the ipad2.
And I know plenty how to utilize my tablet experience, but it is not as good or as fast for certain things as a real keyboard and mouse. For example, posting on this board. Even with the designated app that can be used for this is no where near the same fast experience as a keyboard and a mouse... that is just a fact.
If I have the choice of watching a movie on my TV or my tablet.. the tablet looses every time.
If I have a choice of reading a book/magazine/information via app on my PC versus Tablet, then the tablet will win. That is what it is designed for!
If I have a choice of writing a long mail on my PC or Tablet, the PC will win. The keyboard on a tablet plus the apps in general for mail are far inferior to your PC version.
If I have a choice of doing a word/excel document... PC hands down.. the tablet is useless without a real keyboard.
Web surfing is a toss up... almost, I would still prefer the PC simply because of the keyboard, but the mobility is nice with the tablet.
Games... PC or Xbox/playstation.. at least for the type of games I like to play.
Like it or not the tablet has a very limited usage for most things you use computers in your daily life.
Never said it was not well built. But so is the Asus Transformer which is considerably cheaper and has the same screen as the ipad2.
And I know plenty how to utilize my tablet experience, but it is not as good or as fast for certain things as a real keyboard and mouse. For example, posting on this board. Even with the designated app that can be used for this is no where near the same fast experience as a keyboard and a mouse... that is just a fact.
If I have the choice of watching a movie on my TV or my tablet.. the tablet looses every time.
If I have a choice of reading a book/magazine/information via app on my PC versus Tablet, then the tablet will win. That is what it is designed for!
If I have a choice of writing a long mail on my PC or Tablet, the PC will win. The keyboard on a tablet plus the apps in general for mail are far inferior to your PC version.
If I have a choice of doing a word/excel document... PC hands down.. the tablet is useless without a real keyboard.
Web surfing is a toss up... almost, I would still prefer the PC simply because of the keyboard, but the mobility is nice with the tablet.
Games... PC or Xbox/playstation.. at least for the type of games I like to play.
Like it or not the tablet has a very limited usage for most things you use computers in your daily life.
I'm.gonna throw this in here.
I do all my posting here from my Dell Streak 5" tablet phone. Hell, I haven't had a functioning computer at home for the better part of a year.
This form factor is nearly perfect. I can thumb type with Thumb Keyboard in landscape at a perfectly acceptable rate. If I was going to type something long i'd want a physical keyboard, but for day to day its fine.
I can read a full column of a web page at normal reading distance with my crappy eyes. The screen is usable in the car mount without being dangerous.
And I carry it with me EVERWHERE. Its always in my pocket. Its big. No question. But surprisingly manageable. A truly portable tablet.
And it takes calls too.
Actually probably picking up a Samsung Note tomorrow.
To the thread. I had an iphone, but after awhile I really got sick of it. Left my power cord at work one day and tried to use the wifes iphone 4 to check DP. Gave up after a couple minutes.
Android (with all its quirks and foibles) is my OS of choice, hands down.
That said, to each their own. I know several mac hating recent converts to the ipad. They do whst they do well.
I'm.gonna throw this in here.
I do all my posting here from my Dell Streak 5" tablet phone. Hell, I haven't had a functioning computer at home for the better part of a year.
This form factor is nearly perfect. I can thumb type with Thumb Keyboard in landscape at a perfectly acceptable rate. If I was going to type something long i'd want a physical keyboard, but for day to day its fine.
I can read a full column of a web page at normal reading distance with my crappy eyes. The screen is usable in the car mount without being dangerous.
And I carry it with me EVERWHERE. Its always in my pocket. Its big. No question. But surprisingly manageable. A truly portable tablet.
And it takes calls too.
Actually probably picking up a Samsung Note tomorrow.
To the thread. I had an iphone, but after awhile I really got sick of it. Left my power cord at work one day and tried to use the wifes iphone 4 to check DP. Gave up after a couple minutes.
Android (with all its quirks and foibles) is my OS of choice, hands down.
That said, to each their own. I know several mac hating recent converts to the ipad. They do whst they do well.
Well for me, I was into Apple stuff before Apple became popular. I understand how their stuff works better than most people that use them. Today for example, I told 4 different people at work they could update their iPhones without connecting them to a computer and they didn't know that. To me Android phones are the better phones; but as all around devices they falter. In the tablet sector they falter even harder. This of course is just me, I could get into some reasons why but as you, me, and many others say to each their own.
Most of what you said a bluetooth keyboard can fix. Simply put, the average user can do nearly the exact same things on a tablet or PC, a tablet however can do so much more than your average laptop.
4G will in fact work in other countries. If you go to Apples (Or carriers) own websites it says that much.
I have serious doubts about your side by side comparisons. Even so, chances are your friend was running an app made for iPad, while you were running an app made for Android phones.
As for the whole "copying" and Apple being "late" on certain things, Apple wants everything to actually be stable and not feel like a beta.
Meanwhile, Android stole from Apple for 3+ years, and now both companies will play off of each other back and forth in a similar fashion that MS and Apple has the past 10 years
In a matter of fact, Apple is very close to getting an injunction against GOogle allowing Apple to make $10 for every android device sold because Android devices infringe on several Apple patents.
I probably don't have to tell you because you are such a "technology wizard" but Android before Google bought the company, it initially looked more like a RIM device OS. Eric Schmidt, Google's then CEO stepped down as a board member of Apple due to conflict of interest.
Fact of the matter is though, thanks to an incredible app store, good hardware, and quality design the iPad line has sold more tablets than ALL tablets combined since the invention was introduced 10+ years ago.
And it is a lie.
Apple's new Ipad might not be compatible with 4G networks in Europe - Esato
New Ipad 'useless' on Swedish 4G: report - The Local
No 4G New iPad for UK users | ITProPortal.com
The New iPad is Not Compatible with European 4G/lte Networks | Socyberty
The new 4G iPad is “New World” only | Tech blog | Tech blog - Industry analysis
There are plenty of reports about it out there.
And if Apple keeps having commercials promoting this lie, then they will see a hefty fine in many Europe countries for false advertising.
Siri is beta, buggy and so on. Lion had critical bugs in it... the WIFI bug was utterly idiotic for a company that wants to do everything wirelessly. iPhone 4S still has a battery problem that they have not fixed yet months after release... There is tons of incompatible software on the new OSX, including some of Apples own!
Stole what exactly? I keep hearing this claim from Steve Jobs and Apple fanboys but they never provide evidence.
LOL no they are not. Apple has lost pretty much every single lawsuit against Android and Android makers.. lawsuits that matter, like the whole design issue with Samsung. Face it, if the Samsung, Microsoft and Google got their act together and pooled resources, then they could wipe out Apple via patents since Apple has next to non patents compared to those 3. But they wont because they all earn a nice bit of change on every Apple product, where as Apple does not.
The core and basis of iOS was borrowed from Apple's own products such as OS X. Of course, later on certain things such as notification center were borrowed from Android but Apple borrowing a couple ideas here is nothing compared to a couple hundred ideas all the way down to how the core software works.And so what? Apple "borrowed" its iOS as well as far as I remember... not to mention large parts of the design.. hell they outright stole some bits from app developers by banning the apps from their market and then using the design in the next version of the os as a new feature...
If in these countries the 4G LTE does not work, that specifically has to do with carriers and carrier roll out as well as the different bands. LTE mind you still does not have a unified standard, otherwise there wouldnt be a need for a Verizon and AT&T 4G iPad, even so providers may claim 4G capability using HSPA+ as AT&T does in United States. There is no standard or regulation for 4G. 4G is quite simply a marketing term. Now they could possibly get in trouble saying "4G LTE" had it not been available in the area but not Apple, the actual carrier.
Siri however still works better and in a more integrated fashion than other voice dictation software out there. While true it is still in beta, what it is able to do right now is pretty amazing.
The wifi bugs you speak of more specifically have to do with what happens when Apple devices talk to a network that has several devices on it that are in different bands.
This isn't common to just Apple. HP for example, I cannot get my girlfriends HP netbook to hook to our network. HP does not have an easy fix for it, and it is common.
I'm curious what incompatible software you refer to.
As for battery life, true battery life wasn't the best if you had bluetooth, location services, and so on on. I could maybe go 9 hours without charging from 100% and get home and the charge would be down to 20%. Since this update the charge now hovers around 50% when I get home from work. This is with using Siri, location services, some gaming, some writing, texting, facebook, watching videos, and it searching for the network off and on in my place of business (AT&T's towers suck out where my work is) which honestly seems to drain the battery more than anything. Currently while on wifi the phone has 60% charge, 8 hours of charge left and/or 1 day, 2 hours of stand by.
Here is an unbiased take on the subject: Yes, Google "Stole" From Apple, And That's A Good Thing - Forbes
It essentially is the MS vs Apple of today; it will end out with a company or companies paying out Apple a couple hundred million to quiet them, and to have a cross-patent agreement similar to what Apple and MS share today.
You seem seriously misinformed. Just to name one single example, Apple owns, and originally applied for the multi-touch patent. Please enlighten me as to what multi-touch devices there were before 2007? Apple Offered Licensing Deals To Some Patent Foes -Sources
Apple has in fact been doing this for quite some time, has won a couple of injunctions, even if they were temporary. For example, the Galaxy Tab was so similar to the iPad they got it banned in Germany for quite some time until Samsung altered the design.
The core and basis of iOS was borrowed from Apple's own products such as OS X.
Of course, later on certain things such as notification center were borrowed from Android but Apple borrowing a couple ideas here is nothing compared to a couple hundred ideas all the way down to how the core software works.
As for marketshare, any figures I've seen depending on quarter, etc shows no number below 60%. The lowest numbers I've been seeing is 68%. I've seen 2011 as them maintaining between 68-85% marketshare depending on how you look at it.
Apple's iPad market share slipped to 54.7% in 4Q11 down from 61.5% in 3Q11, according to IDC. The drop is largely due to the introduction of the Amazon Kindle which reached 16.8% market share in 4Q11 and increased awareness of other non-Apple tablets.
Also Office is coming to iPad.
In a matter of fact, several incredibly well done Microsoft apps are on iOS, many of them such as the Xbox Live component of Windows Phone, are exactly like Windows Phone. I also have Microsoft Photosythe, a Halo app, my gf plays Kinectimals, and Dance Central...you know Microsoft stuff. Face it. Ipad is synonymous with tablets just as iPod is with MP3 players. They created the modern smartphone and tablet industry. I'm not saying you have to like it, just respect it. Besides that why do we defend multi-billion dollar companies?
They spend enough time doing that themselves. I just like to educate the uneducated.
As for the HD display, I bet it is mindblowing, despite PeteU's skepticism. The fact that that many pixels are packed on to a screen that's 10 inches probably makes the viewing that much cleaner. I don't think the small size wastes the hi-res. But seeing will be believing, I suppose.
It is mind blowing screen, but my point is ... so what. The Ferrari is a mind blowing car but you dont need it to drive to the store 2 miles away.. Also the small size does matter. There is no point having full HD on a 10 inch screen.. you can simply not see the difference between a 1080p or 720p or even 420p. And then comes the storage space. To use the higher resolution means app upgrades, which means large apps, which means less space. Add to that, that HD movies fill a crap load of space also (especially in 1080p) and you got some serious storage problems for even the 64 GB version.
For example, I have some HD 1080p movies on a hard drive.. Avatar with DTS sound, fills 14 GB.. Now I could probably get that down a tad to under 10 GB if I went an fiddled with the compression ratios and such, but that is still 70% of the iPad 16 GBs storage..
I'm gonna have to differ with you on the screen res thing.
I recently upgraded from the dell Streak (800x600 LCD) to the Samsung Galaxy note (1280x800 Super amoLED)
The difference is clearly noticeable (although the Notes display is a ljttle over-saturated. No adjustments are available at this time without rooting, which I avoid if possible)
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