But you don't make it sound logical. Logic rarely has anything to do with the mindless hatred that permeates these forums.
Oh cut it out, please. Honestly answer these questions:
Did he own/run/have his name on a fraudulent charity that he used to steal from those donating to it, embezzle, cheat the IRS and not do very much actual charity - including to veterans he claimed to be giving to?
Did he not have a fraudulent university he ripped people off with?
He hasn’t been sued thousands times by people whose contractual word Trump’s given then breached?
He hasn’t publicly humiliated three women he claimed to love and gave promises to honor and care for them?
He didn’t betray his own brother on that brother’s death bed?
Tip of the iceberg. There is a lot more.
You offer raw emotion, not facts.
Sorry, that statement is full of crap. I clearly point out I’m sticking to the PUBLIC RECORD.
There are court cases, interrogatory under oath, books by family members; Ivana Trump among others, former White House staff members, all vetted by lawyers to make sure the publishers can’t get sued successfully, Trump’s own words in interviews like the Stern Show. Tons of very public record available that logically, and accurately, makes the case: Trump is a very bad person of horrible ethics and terrible character.
All very true; too high to get over, too low to get under, too wide to go around. Yet you and folks like you deny it, or acknowledge it and say it doesn’t matter. There is something wrong with that in the DISCERNING category which calls your judgement into question, your own ethical equation handling, or both. That’s factual as well.
You owe it, not to us but yourselves, to take an honest look at that. Ask the questions and come clean with yourselves.
Side effect: The Constitutional Republic you save might be your own.
We reject the opinion of the party - which you recite.
I am not a partisan. I don’t belong to a political party. I’m a retired professional investigator investigating. In Trump’s case it’s not very hard. Like I stated, it’s all right out there to be seen.
Why don’t you and those like you see it? Why are you missing the obvious? Look in the mirror, face yourself, and ask the tough question: Why did you put a man so obviously unethical and of such terrible character, a man who like Bernie Madoff stole millions from thousands, cut from that cloth, in the most powerful seat in the world?
You can lie to us, folks lie, Trump does it constantly. Folks like you though are lying to themselves. That’s never a good idea.
I’m not trying to hurt your feelings. I am trying to help you see and acknowledge the obvious, the truth, to yourselves.
It being factual makes it so - even though you hate Trump.
I don’t hate anyone I’ve never met. I greatly disdain criminal behavior. Most decent people do. Said so. I’m a retired law enforcer. I took an oath to uphold the laws Trump is breaking. The Constitution he’s making a mockery of. His walking between the raindrops that is our Rule of Law makes my former profession a bit of a joke.
You don't present it, you just post emotional rants about your hatred of the enemy of your party.
Your opinion.
I’m the first to admit my presentation is droll and my style “lecturing”. I can be a bit pompous if I don’t watch myself. I’m pretty honest about such things. I try real hard not to lie to myself, even about me.
None of that changes that I’m a practical, pragmatic, common sense based individual and that the arguments I present are that of such a person as I’ve described.