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New book: Biden aides discussed using a wheelchair in second term (2 Viewers)

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Indicative of how serious the extent of the feebleness Biden was experiencing due to his advanced age comes the news aids felt a wheelchair was a necessary option.

Biden was simply too old to run, and too stubborn to come to terms with that fact.

CNN — Former President Joe Biden’s physical deterioration was severe enough in the second half of his presidency that his aides privately discussed putting him in a wheelchair for his second term, according to a new book from CNN’s Jake Tapper and Axios’ Alex Thompson.

Axios reported Tuesday on the new details from “Original Sin: President Biden’s Decline, Its Cover-Up, and His Disastrous Choice to Run Again,” which is being released on May 20. The book is based on more than 200 interviews, mostly with Democratic insiders, almost all of which occurred after the 2024 election was over.

 
Indicative of how serious the extent of the feebleness Biden was experiencing due to his advanced age comes the news aids felt a wheelchair was a necessary option.

Biden was simply too old to run, and too stubborn to come to terms with that fact.



It was clear to everyone he had difficulty walking. I think he felt some kind of intense personal responsibility to make sure Trump stayed out of office. But, that didn't go well.
I suspect he has some choice things to say about Garland's wishy washy behavior and McConnell's cowardice.
 
I don’t know what one’s ability to walk has to do with their ability to be an effective executive or leader 🤷‍♀️

Can someone explain the correlation to me?

We have a current POTUS that walks just fine, but strikes me as struggling more cognitively than our prior POTUS 🤷‍♀️
 
I don’t know what one’s ability to walk has to do with their ability to be an effective executive or leader 🤷‍♀️

Can someone explain the correlation to me?

We have a current POTUS that walks just fine, but strikes me as struggling more cognitively than our prior POTUS 🤷‍♀️
In a democracy, especially in as aggressively uneducated a society like ours, appearances are more important than substance.
 
I don’t know what one’s ability to walk has to do with their ability to be an effective executive or leader 🤷‍♀️

Can someone explain the correlation to me?

We have a current POTUS that walks just fine, but strikes me as struggling more cognitively than our prior POTUS 🤷‍♀️
right, FDR was in a wheelchair for example pretty much permanently.

biden should never have run, he should have made that clear so the dems could have had a real primary.
 
I don’t know what one’s ability to walk has to do with their ability to be an effective executive or leader 🤷‍♀️

Can someone explain the correlation to me?
I think it was more about appearance than anything else. Republicans were already honing in on Biden's frail appearance, a wheelchair would have made the issue even bigger than it was.
Trump's in la la land half the time but he's got the sturdy, chubby appearance of your average conservative male.
 
Indicative of how serious the extent of the feebleness Biden was experiencing due to his advanced age comes the news aids felt a wheelchair was a necessary option.

Biden was simply too old to run, and too stubborn to come to terms with that fact.



He certainly was no longer capable of running a strenuous national campaign and holding down that job. , but the wheelchair itself should not even enter this discussion. It's not evidence of anything other than an inability to walk long distances,or stand for long periods of time. Neither of those attributes are important for being effective in this job or running for elective office.

Feeding into ablest or agist stereotypes is not the smart lesson here. Ensuring our candidates engage in robust and testing primaries with debates long before a general election is the smart lesson.

The 4-year intraparty coronations need to stop on both sides of the aisles.
 
In a democracy, especially in as aggressively uneducated a society like ours, appearances are more important than substance.

right, FDR was in a wheelchair for example pretty much permanently.

biden should never have run, he should have made that clear so the dems could have had a real primary.

I completely agree.

The US populace is most definitely ableist and also largely uninformed and ignorant.

Our current situation reflects that.


(And I’d be in favor of maximum ages for ALL political offices and appointments, for the record.)
 
Indicative of how serious the extent of the feebleness Biden was experiencing due to his advanced age comes the news aids felt a wheelchair was a necessary option.

Biden was simply too old to run, and too stubborn to come to terms with that fact.




I don’t quite get this. FDR required a wheelchair.

I’m 70 and I barely get around. Don’t try to outthink me though. Especially if it’s involves institutional/historical memory or the use of data that needs digging up.

POTUS isn’t about your pins. It’s about your grey matter.

I honestly don’t care if my President needs a wheelchair. It matters to me if he can manage his administration effectively.
 
right, FDR was in a wheelchair for example pretty much permanently.

biden should never have run, he should have made that clear so the dems could have had a real primary.
The party is not supposed to need any candidates 'permission' to have a 'real primary' The problem is that your premise depends on one politician's decision-making, rather than the party doing the deciding. It was never supposed to be Biden's final call to make. Biden is not the first or the second or the third stubborn incumbent President who lost its party the office, in our nation's history. He sure as hell won't be the last.

The party got exactly what it deserved.
 
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right, FDR was in a wheelchair for example pretty much permanently.

biden should never have run, he should have made that clear so the dems could have had a real primary.

Biden shouldn’t have run because he made a promise he was a one term POTUS during the campaign for his first term.

Now I stated, at the time, that while he may have meant that at the time he said it it wasn’t going to be true in 2020. That’s just not how people work when they’ve “sat in the BIG chair”, and I know that.

However it poisoned the stew. You said it, you’re going to have to stick to it.

That’s why Biden shouldn’t have run. To kept his first term campaign pledge.
 
Indicative of how serious the extent of the feebleness Biden was experiencing due to his advanced age comes the news aids felt a wheelchair was a necessary option.

Biden was simply too old to run, and too stubborn to come to terms with that fact.



If you listened to his speeches. He kept on saying he was please to in ____(a state), when he really was in another state completely. No one bothered to correct him. It's obvious the Democrats are spineless and that's one of the reasons they lost.
 
Wow, that topic title sure was a surprise. Actually, I feel sort of sorry for the fella, if it really was that bad.

I suspect I will end up needing a wheelchair, if I stay alive for more than a couple more years. But I also must confess I have been really stubborn about not using a cane, or the fancy walking stick things I see people use, or a really fancy cart thingy I bought a couple years ago. Darn expensive thing, too.

Not so sure why I have been so stubborn on that, but maybe because I am having trouble facing reality. I used to be so good in sports and being mobile and all that and I guess - - - well, facing up to age troubles isn't so easy.

But they were actually giving thought to President Biden using a wheelchair? That is a surprise. But sometimes he did look a bit not so good in public venues. His wife is a doctor, yes? Why didn't she order him to use that wheelchair? Sure would be safer. To heck with the image thing; safety should come first.
 
Wow, that topic title sure was a surprise. Actually, I feel sort of sorry for the fella, if it really was that bad.

I suspect I will end up needing a wheelchair, if I stay alive for more than a couple more years. But I also must confess I have been really stubborn about not using a cane, or the fancy walking stick things I see people use, or a really fancy cart thingy I bought a couple years ago. Darn expensive thing, too.

Not so sure why I have been so stubborn on that, but maybe because I am having trouble facing reality. I used to be so good in sports and being mobile and all that and I guess - - - well, facing up to age troubles isn't so easy.

But they were actually giving thought to President Biden using a wheelchair? That is a surprise. But sometimes he did look a bit not so good in public venues. His wife is a doctor, yes? Why didn't she order him to use that wheelchair? Sure would be safer. To heck with the image thing; safety should come first.
Before the election I thought Biden should have embraced his age and acted the wise old man. A fancy walking stick would have been awesome. He could have waved it menacingly at Trump during the debate. That would have been great.
 
I don’t know what one’s ability to walk has to do with their ability to be an effective executive or leader 🤷‍♀️

Can someone explain the correlation to me?

We have a current POTUS that walks just fine, but strikes me as struggling more cognitively than our prior POTUS 🤷‍♀️
When you dont really like living in reality....
 
Indicative of how serious the extent of the feebleness Biden was experiencing due to his advanced age comes the news aids felt a wheelchair was a necessary option.

Biden was simply too old to run, and too stubborn to come to terms with that fact.



I think that would have been fine because I don't think physical limitations in an older president matter nearly as much as his mental feebleness did.
 
Before the election I thought Biden should have embraced his age and acted the wise old man. A fancy walking stick would have been awesome. He could have waved it menacingly at Trump during the debate. That would have been great.

That is a very good point! Very, very good!! Turn the situation into an advantage!!!

Well, this requires more than just that "Like" thingy.
 

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