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NBER: Recession ended in June 2009

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The NBER business cycle dating committee has determined that the recession ended in June 2009...


The full memo can be read here.
 
Does this mean a "double dip" is now impossible?
 
In how many years will this be corrected like it was for the early 2000s recession? 3 years? 4?
 
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In how many years will this be corrected like it was for the late 2000s recession? 3 years? 4?

When the Republicans take over power and start to rewrite history as they usually do.
 
In how many years will this be corrected like it was for the early 2000s recession? 3 years? 4?

As you know, the various gov't agencies that collect econ data often revise that data. Fortunately, most revisions occur within 3 months of the original report. Unfortunately for economic historians, the NBER, and the Conference Board, there are several major econ time series that are revised annually. These so-called 'benchmark' revisions result from the inclusion of more all-encompassing 'harder' data than available during the intervening months, when surveys are the predominant source of data. For example, manufacturing, employment and income get annual benchmark revisions with the inclusion of data from the IRS. The employment data has historically been the econ series with the most significant benchmark revisions; it is also one of the most important in the consideration of dating recessions.

IIRC, and I'm a bit embarassed to admit that I'm a little vague on this (so if anyone remembers differently or wants to google it up, please do so!), the 2000 recesssion was particularly contentious with regards to dating, particularly because employment growth lagged significantly. This is what the dating committee had to say about it:


The entire memo is here.
 
Of course the recession ended months ago, the timeline of a recession has nothing to do with unemployment figures so yes the recession has been over for some time. The issue is that while unemployment is a lagging indicator, it is lagging more than normal. Thus there is a perception of continued recession, though that perception will not technically be reality unless a double dip happens.
 
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