Nancy Pelosi: U.S. needs strong Republican party, not a cult

[Spunkylama]

Nancy Pelosi: U.S. Needs Strong Republican Party, Not a Cult

The House Speaker said she wants the GOP to "take it back to where you were when you cared about a woman's right to choose, you cared about the environment."

www.newsweek.com

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi rehashed her mantra of the U.S. needing a "strong Republican party," not a "cult" while criticizing her Senate GOP colleagues' record on climate change.

Speaking at the opening session of the Aspen Ideas Climate Conference in Miami, Pelosi said she hoped to make climate a "bipartisan issue."

"You don't want me to get too political here, do you?" Pelosi asked the audience.

"I mean, the fossil fuel industry, they weigh in so significantly," she continued. "I mean, how could it be that nobody in the Senate cares about climate?

"Some of them do, and they talk about it, when it comes to the votes, it just isn't there, they just aren't there."

Pelosi went on: "So rather than saying, 'Well, we have to defeat them,' no, let's just try to persuade them. I want the Republican party to take back the party, take it back to where you were when you cared about a woman's right to choose, you cared about the environment."

To the audience's resounding claps, the House Speaker added: "Hey, here I am, Nancy Pelosi, saying this country needs a strong Republican party, and we do, not a cult, but a strong Republican party."

Pelosi has on multiple previous occasions called for a "strong" GOP party that eschews an internal "cult" movement.

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[mrjurrs]

Nancy Pelosi: U.S. Needs Strong Republican Party, Not a Cult

The House Speaker said she wants the GOP to "take it back to where you were when you cared about a woman's right to choose, you cared about the environment."

www.newsweek.com

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi rehashed her mantra of the U.S. needing a "strong Republican party," not a "cult" while criticizing her Senate GOP colleagues' record on climate change.

Speaking at the opening session of the Aspen Ideas Climate Conference in Miami, Pelosi said she hoped to make climate a "bipartisan issue."

"You don't want me to get too political here, do you?" Pelosi asked the audience.

"I mean, the fossil fuel industry, they weigh in so significantly," she continued. "I mean, how could it be that nobody in the Senate cares about climate?

"Some of them do, and they talk about it, when it comes to the votes, it just isn't there, they just aren't there."

Pelosi went on: "So rather than saying, 'Well, we have to defeat them,' no, let's just try to persuade them. I want the Republican party to take back the party, take it back to where you were when you cared about a woman's right to choose, you cared about the environment."

To the audience's resounding claps, the House Speaker added: "Hey, here I am, Nancy Pelosi, saying this country needs a strong Republican party, and we do, not a cult, but a strong Republican party."

Pelosi has on multiple previous occasions called for a "strong" GOP party that eschews an internal "cult" movement.

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I refer the model G Washington warned us about (my bold added)

In this letter to “Friends and Citizens,” Washington warned that the forces of geographical sectionalism, political factionalism, and interference by foreign powers in the nation's domestic affairs threatened the stability of the Republic.

I'd prefer a more parliamentary style legislative branch.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

I refer the model G Washington warned us about (my bold added)

In this letter to “Friends and Citizens,” Washington warned that the forces of geographical sectionalism, political factionalism, and interference by foreign powers in the nation's domestic affairs threatened the stability of the Republic.

I'd prefer a more parliamentary style legislative branch.

You'll never get rid political parties. People will always band together to achieve certain things. It's a survival instinct for us.

 

[Nomad4Ever]

"So rather than saying, 'Well, we have to defeat them,' no, let's just try to persuade them. I want the Republican party to take back the party, take it back to where you were when you cared about a woman's right to choose, you cared about the environment."

That was never.

God, shit like this is probably the biggest issue I have with liberals. The only strong GOP I want is a GOP to the left of the Democrats.

 

[OrphanSlug]

Pelosi is shockingly and probably accidentally right, but predictably she used a poor choice of words.

What the nation really needs is representation that covers the left to the middle to the right, and it is easy to argue today's Democrats and Republicans are failing at every level to represent anyone but the extremes of their respective parties.

It is not unreasonable to say Trump's wing of the Republican Party functions like a cult, similar story with the inside the bubble thinking from the likes of Warren, Sanders, AOC, and people of that mindset.

The real fault is duopoly of power leading to ignorance on climate change, social issues, our broken criminal justice system, immigration faults, taxation and spending policy wants, what have you. How each side aligns their position is not entirely about merit on addressing those issues, at least not entirely. Climate change vs. big oil is a classic example of Republicans suggesting humanity has nothing to do with the matter and Democrats rushing everyone into "OMG, our time is running out" costly ventures to combat climate change by championing people who will never have these new rules applied to them.

That fault causes another, no one in either establishment really cares much for moderates and independents. Well, until election season when they are appealed to... only to be monumentally ignored the very next day after the election. Which includes meaningful yet digestible impact improvement on our environment.

 

[mrjurrs]

You'll never get rid political parties. People will always band together to achieve certain things. It's a survival instinct for us.

There is a difference in political parties under a parliamentary system (way more than 2 would be serving at any time).

 

[Nomad4Ever]

What the nation really needs is representation that covers the left to the middle to the right, and it is easy to argue today's Democrats and Republicans are failing at every level to represent anyone but the extremes of their respective parties.

A very large part of the people who feel unrepresented by the DNC are people who feel the DNC is to the right of them. Bernie finished with like 40% of the vote in the primaries. The DNC is not even remotely representing anything approximating "far left". Biden and most of the DNC are aggressively centrist.

 

[Mycroft]

Nancy Pelosi: U.S. Needs Strong Republican Party, Not a Cult

The House Speaker said she wants the GOP to "take it back to where you were when you cared about a woman's right to choose, you cared about the environment."

www.newsweek.com

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi rehashed her mantra of the U.S. needing a "strong Republican party," not a "cult" while criticizing her Senate GOP colleagues' record on climate change.

Speaking at the opening session of the Aspen Ideas Climate Conference in Miami, Pelosi said she hoped to make climate a "bipartisan issue."

"You don't want me to get too political here, do you?" Pelosi asked the audience.

"I mean, the fossil fuel industry, they weigh in so significantly," she continued. "I mean, how could it be that nobody in the Senate cares about climate?

"Some of them do, and they talk about it, when it comes to the votes, it just isn't there, they just aren't there."

Pelosi went on: "So rather than saying, 'Well, we have to defeat them,' no, let's just try to persuade them. I want the Republican party to take back the party, take it back to where you were when you cared about a woman's right to choose, you cared about the environment."

To the audience's resounding claps, the House Speaker added: "Hey, here I am, Nancy Pelosi, saying this country needs a strong Republican party, and we do, not a cult, but a strong Republican party."

Pelosi has on multiple previous occasions called for a "strong" GOP party that eschews an internal "cult" movement.

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Nancy is deathly afraid of losing the right handed wing of the Uniparty.

 

[Far right dem]

She is wrong. The us does not need a gop at all. The gop is what is wrong with America.

 

[Hypothetical]

what america needs is an anti woke party that believes in the constitution and is also against corporate greed and more socially middle of the road than the GOP.

unfortunately, we are not going to get that as long as there is too much money in politics.

 

[Luckyone]

That was never.

God, shit like this is probably the biggest issue I have with liberals. The only strong GOP I want is a GOP to the left of the Democrats.

In simple words, you want a party where self is more important than the whole. You want to win the Olympics and care nothing about winning the Super Bowl or World Cup.

 

[Nomad4Ever]

In simple words, you want a party where self is more important than the whole. You want to win the Olympics and care nothing about winning the Super Bowl or World Cup.

I have no idea what this means. This is not simple words.

 

[Felis Leo]

That was never.

God, shit like this is probably the biggest issue I have with liberals. The only strong GOP I want is a GOP to the left of the Democrats.

The problem with that is who exactly would that GOP represent? And why would the constituency of the current Republican Party vote for them?

Because the biggest problem with a democracy is that everyone gets a vote, especially people you disagree with, and they may often outvote you. That includes people who are religiously intolerant, anti-abortion, pro-business, anti-welfare, etc., etc.

If the GOP became a left wing technocratic party that demanded subservience from its voters, Republican voters would vote for a new conservative or right-wing party and the old GOP would die. And the new party might end up being even more powerful and radical because it will not be constrained by prior ties and obligations and could give in entirely to right-wing populism.

 

[Felis Leo]

She is wrong. The us does not need a gop at all. The gop is what is wrong with America.

The GOP is voted into power by Americans. So wouldn't it be more accurate to say that Americans are what is wrong with America?

 

[Felis Leo]

There is a difference in political parties under a parliamentary system (way more than 2 would be serving at any time).

That is only if there is representative voting (lousy), or ranked choice voting (better), versus first-past-the-post/winner-take-all voting. Britain devolved into an effective two-party system because of winner-take-all voting.

 

[mrjurrs]

That is only if there is representative voting (lousy), or ranked choice voting (better), versus first-past-the-post voting. Britain devolved into an effective two-party system because of winner-take-all voting.

I like ranked choice, and the economics of elections make me feel that we will actually see that across America in the not too distant future. While there are two dominant parties in Britain, it seems to me that the smaller parties are still able to have some influence on final decisions.

 

[Nomad4Ever]

The problem with that is who exactly would that GOP represent? And why would the constituency of the current Republican Party vote for them?

Because the biggest problem with a democracy is that everyone gets a vote, especially people you disagree with, and they may often outvote you. That includes people who are religiously intolerant, anti-abortion, pro-business, anti-welfare, etc., etc.

If the GOP became a left wing technocratic party that demanded subservience from its voters, Republican voters would vote for a new conservative or right-wing party and the old GOP would die. And the new party might end up being even more powerful and radical because it will not be constrained by prior ties and obligations and could give in entirely to right-wing populism.

The GOP is voted into power by Americans. So wouldn't it be more accurate to say that Americans are what is wrong with America?

I don't disagree with any of this. There is naturally going to be a large difference between what I'd like to see and what is likely or practical.

The problem with that is who exactly would that GOP represent? And why would the constituency of the current Republican Party vote for them?

Really what I meant (as you pointed out the GOP are voted in) is that I want the entire US to be more left. I want a US where there wouldn't be enough people that agree with the politics of the current (or past) GOP for them to be voted in.

This might sound ridiculous, but these shifts do happen. We no longer have a party that "represents" people who are pro-slavery. There is no party to represent people who don't believe women should vote. There are no (at least openly) segregationists in congress. I don't think it is entirely unrealistic to expect to slowly win people over and hope the values the current GOP represents go the wayside of history.

 

[Far right dem]

The GOP is voted into power by Americans. So wouldn't it be more accurate to say that Americans are what is wrong with America?

No. By that logic Germans are responsible for the holocaust as they voted hitler into power.

 

[Luckyone]

I have no idea what this means. This is not simple words.

The Republican ideology is that every man is own nation and that each nation must survive by its own means. A nation, such as the U.S. is a team where everyone works together for the benefit of all. You win the Super Bowl by working together for that goal. If you are competing for yourself, you go to the Olympics where you are just working for your own accomplishment. Team is not important there.

 

[phoenix2020]

No. By that logic Germans are responsible for the holocaust as they voted hitler into power.

So long as elections were fair, I see no issue with citizenry who voted for someone being responsible for the decisions and actions of the people they voted for.

 

[humbolt]

Elements of your party, Mrs. Pelosi, are dressing up as handmaidens and chanting. Tend to your own business first.

 

[Far right dem]

So long as elections were fair, I see no issue with citizenry who voted for someone being responsible for the decisions and actions of the people they voted for.

Ok fair point but just as Germany banned nazism we need to ban the gop

 

[Mr Person]

Well, I'm not sure about strong, but existing and not evil would work.

 

[CaughtInThe]

the US will have to wait 30-50 years.

 

[Craig234]

You'll never get rid political parties. People will always band together to achieve certain things. It's a survival instinct for us.

Correct, but what we have is 0.1% with huge amounts of money getting more power than the rest of the country, by having a political machine that cons much of the country.