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Nah, it's just localized weather, means NOTHING at all.. early snow in Houston

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Snow surprises Houston-area residents | Chronicle | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

Yep, that's right folks, those damned dastardly deniers keep saying it's getting cooler, natural cyclical patterns, sun spots... the fact it's been cooling for 10 years.. all lies.

Because the earth is being polluted, unbalanced by man!!! We need ot brace our selves, for more of THIS!!!
 
What's your question, please? If world climate is getting cooler?

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What's your question, please? If world climate is getting cooler? Or if it's getting cooler in winter?

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Re: What's your question, please? If world climate is getting cooler?

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What's your question, please? If world climate is getting cooler? Or if it's getting cooler in winter?

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I'm merely using weather to illustrate the power of climate change.
 
Yeah, it snowed here (Austin) a tiny bit on Tuesday night; there was still some ice sticking to things yesterday morning.
This is unusual, but not unheard of. It's happened before. A number of times.
 
Yeah, it snowed here (Austin) a tiny bit on Tuesday night; there was still some ice sticking to things yesterday morning.
This is unusual, but not unheard of. It's happened before. A number of times.

Austin, really? You're like a 2 hour drive away... scary!



Gil's right though, how MANY "isolated" incidents does it take? Mind you, I'm merely using the same trick they use here... ya know.... show a few Glaciers in retreat, IT'S GLOBAL WARMING!!! Or a heatwave in the middle of summer, or a rash of Tornadoes in a 2 day span.
 
Winter Storm Warning for Baton Rouge??? When was the last time this happened??

 
I'm up here in Dallas.:2wave:

I'll be up in Ft. Worth next Friday to get the kiddos from the x. She's in Kansas, and we have to meet 1/2 way. I HATE THAT DAMNED DRIVE up I35, specially through Austin... bleah!

Woah! Baton Rouge? Winter Weather... must be GLOBAL WARMING at work Gil, cause if it wasn't for that extra push of 1.3ppm of CO2 last year...

We truly, are reaping what we sow.
 
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I can do this too!








Shall I continue, or do you get the gist?

Tell me Gill and Mr Vicchio, what will it take for you two to realize the difference between weather and climate?
 
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I can do this too!

Shall I continue, or do you get the gist?

Tell me Gill and Mr Vicchio, what will it take for you two to realize the difference between weather and climate?

And not a single link to support your quotes.... tsk, tsk.

Please point out where I have claimed these were anything but weather events.

Put up or shut up.

I will ask you one question though. What is climate data based on?
 
It's snowing hard in New Orleans now and we haven't even gotten the most of it.

The last time this happened was Christmas day about 5 years ago.

I'm not driving to work in this. No way!
 
It's snowing hard in New Orleans now and we haven't even gotten the most of it.

The last time this happened was Christmas day about 5 years ago.

I'm not driving to work in this. No way!

The snow plows will have the roads cleared in no time......:rofl
 
It's snowing hard in New Orleans now and we haven't even gotten the most of it.

The last time this happened was Christmas day about 5 years ago.

I'm not driving to work in this. No way!

Whimp:2razz:
 
And not a single link to support your quotes.... tsk, tsk.

Please point out where I have claimed these were anything but weather events.

Put up or shut up.

I will ask you one question though. What is climate data based on?


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Bulgaria City of Shumen with Record Warm Temperatures for December: Bulgaria City of Shumen with Record Warm Temperatures for December

BBC Weather Centre - World Weather - News - 07/12/2008 - Record warm temperatures hit Russia

Warm weather today breaks century-old record - Cleveland Metro News – The Latest Breaking News, Photos and Stories from The Plain Dealer

Viewing a thread - Winter 'heat wave' - Moscow, 3rd December 2008


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Here are some to help you understand the difference between climate and weather. This is for you, too, MrVicchio and American. Please, don't thank me, I'm only here to help.

Warm weather today breaks century-old record - Cleveland Metro News – The Latest Breaking News, Photos and Stories from The Plain Dealer

This one is even easier to comprehend:

Weather and Climate Basics

I love how it starts out: :rofl

It’s a sweltering midsummer day. “It must be global warming,” mutters someone. But is it the Earth’s changing climate that has made the day so warm? Or, is it just the weather that is so unbearable?


And to answer your question, Gill, hopefully it's not unreliable satellite temperature recording.
 
Whimp:2razz:

I know! That Christmas day 5 years ago i wouldn't drive to my parent's house for dinner. This city comes to a complete stop when it snows.

I think it started early enough for the kids to get the day off.

Still snowing hard....
 
I know! That Christmas day 5 years ago i wouldn't drive to my parent's house for dinner. This city comes to a complete stop when it snows.

I think it started early enough for the kids to get the day off.

Still snowing hard....

I lived in NYC for about ten years and the snow was one reason I moved back to Dallas. I hate snow now!!!! When it snows here I'm willing to drive in it but people here just don't know how to do it here!!!!
 

Thank you for the links. I'll look at them when I get a chance. I'm still waiting on Siberia though.

I know the difference between climate and weather, you obviously don't. That's why I asked you the question and your answer confirmed by belief.

Now, maybe you would expound on your ridiculous assertion that satellite temp data is unreliable. Please don't bring up that error that was corrected years ago. But, be prepared to defend land based temp data too, especially the Giss Temps. Now that's an unreliable temperature data set. There have been many more error corrections in the GISS set than in either of the two satellite based sets and that's not even counting the very limited number of recording sites or the fact that most of their sites don't meet their own criteria for proper sighting.
 
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I'd like to hear a decent rebuttal to the AGW theory. I've heard little but conspiracy theories and stuff that could come from people who believe in creationism.

What a ridiculous conclusion. Why would you think that anyone that is skeptical of AGW believes in creationism?? That is quite a leap.
 
snow blocking door...can't get out.....getting weaker....hope help comes soon........
 
If you want some more stories on 'weather', here you go:

China's ice breaker Xuelong blocked during Antarctica expedition_English_Xinhua

Cold snap fails to cool protagonists of global warming | The Australian

Snow arrives early at Snowbird - Salt Lake Tribune

Record snow falls in Europe and North America mean ski resorts open early | Mail Online

I could do this all day.
 

Gill, I don't give a rat's ass whether is freezing cold in Australia, or bikini-balmy in Siberia today. Now if both, or one or the other persists over a few years, then fine, there might be something there. Otherwise, if you're poving the point the GW is non-existant today because a city is experiencing record cold snaps, then you have no concept of climate, let alone reality.
 
Hey, I'm here in New Orleans, too! I realize that isolated weather incidents don't necessarily mean climate change, but some of us believe recent data that GISS' Hanson hasn't gotten his mitts on and edited. By the way, New Orleans typically gets one of these freak measureable snow events maybe once every 10 years or so, and this one is earlier than I've ever seen in my 55 years. Our last such snow was colder and longer, on Christmas 2004.

Hey, Middleground, just for you I took a picture of an honored guest who was just spotted in front of my office! We rarely get to meet such celebrities around these parts... enjoy! He really looks kind of chic, really, with all that gold... he could walk tall in the 'hood!



It will be so damned sad when he melts later!
 
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