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N.C. just found thousands of felony-level voter fraud cases


These things haven't actually been proven. That's why the investigation is just starting.

If these things had been proven, there would be criminal proceedings already pending.
 
Please explain, someone - how does one get from my statement, "we have only charges but no proof" to the following?


For some reason, I find little connection with what I wrote and the claim that I would "be fine with ignoring all this regardless of the truth". It does seem to be just another instance of someone who 'knows' the Truth and reality be damned.
 
Another absolute bull**** story from a FAR RIGHT rag. Keep trying, guys. It keeps you from doing something that really might be dangerous, such as crafting a message that appeals to people other than old white guys.

Way to rebut with facts and evidence. Like a true drone.
 

This is why every vote needs to have the full legal name as well as their SS number (or last 4 digits) along with it. Then the votes can be uploaded and cross checked in a central database for duplicates and fraud. It wouldn't be hard to write the software to do this, yet it hasn't been done or proposed. The hand counting of votes needs to go away because it is another avenue for fraud and percent error. Although the other side of this argument is that someone shady could subvert the system.
 


You actually believe the bs the mainstream outlets cover? You know they are highly controlled in the area of political correspondence, right? I suppose you think we are doing Ukraine a favor also? Since that is what the MSM is spewing out. Utter garbage the MSM is. The satire of John Stewart is more accurate than those talking heads.
 

There are a ton of objective sources beyond the "main stream media".... if you don't know how to verify an article or an assertion, than I suggest you spend too much time with political porn..... I agree that "main stream media" often must serve the commercial master and stay away from things that have no traction, but they generally are not in the business of making news, which is what you get from a political porn site (as is the case with the site in question)...

If you actually did any research on voter fraud, you would find it is almost non-existent. The article you cite, from a political porn site, runs contrary to almost anything you can find on the subject. If you lack the discernment to understand that, so be it.... but when you post this trash here without verifying it (which you can not), be prepared to accept the wrath of those that challenge your understanding of things..... Its political smut and you know it. Don't expect any serious person to take it seriously.
 

Yeah. Let's take a look at NY: Voter Fraud: We
 
Well it is kinda like crappin' on their last bowl of corn flakes.
 
North Carolina was the only state that reports voter fraud and the only swing state that went to Romney and the governorship went to a republicon for the first time in 20 years and the republicons picked up three seats in the house.
A purple state went red, big time, only where voter fraud was found... when other southern swing states went blue
ANYONE CAN DO THAT MATH.
Republicon voter fraud!
 
Yeah. Let's take a look at NY: Voter Fraud: We

Rather typical right-wing hyperbole combined with outright lies and/or simply being unable to read.

61 votes were cast by the investigators using the names of dead voters: The Board of Health had failed to notify the Board of Elections in 39 of the cases, wrong middle names and incorrect spelling meant 10 other deceased had not been removed from the rolls of voters. Twelve dead people voted, not a good number but not as bad as the right is screaming about. Even with photo ID, that means you could have had 49 dead people voting, never mind the problem with absentee ballots.
 

Well then, that makes it all just fine. Glad you cleared all that up.
 
Again, potential cases. Apparently nobody has told you guys that the vast majority of cases investigated turn out to not actually be fraud.

What part of partial would you file this under?

 
:roll: Yeah, anecdotes, that will win the argument for you.

My anecdotes are as good as anybody else's, especially those including vague dismissals which don't address any substantive points. Naturally, for those of a particular disposition, no objective will be met by doing such a thing.
 
What part of partial would you file this under?

Better question: assuming 100% of these are actual fraud, how many of these votes would have been stopped by voter ID?
 
My anecdotes are as good as anybody else's, especially those including vague dismissals which don't address any substantive points. Naturally, for those of a particular disposition, no objective will be met by doing such a thing.

I totally agree that your anecdotes are just as worthless as everyone else's anecdotes.

You haven't made any substantive points. The fact that O'Keefe can videotape getting someone else's ballot is not evidence that voter fraud is rampant.
 
Better question: assuming 100% of these are actual fraud, how many of these votes would have been stopped by voter ID?

http://voterintegrityproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/JointCommittee_April-2014.pdf

Here's a pdf which outlines the multi state voter integrity project. I'd start on page 32 for an explaination of the states that are participating, page 35 displays their findings which are described on the ABC news site and page 39 has legislated requests authored by the board of elections. Have fun.
 
$100 says they wont prosecute any of them because Eric Holder directed his state attorney generals not to. I may not like our executive branch too much or the leadership provided...but the judicial branch is truly corrupt to the core. I have no trust in the judicial branch at all.
 

You didn't answer my question because you know the answer is zero. Checking my ID doesn't show whether or not I've already voted in a different state. Dipping my finger in ink would literally be more effective at this task.
 
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