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My kind of sanctuary city

L88 said:
And that tells the whole story right? All I've seen is the wrong story on this thread. Everything that people are saying was wrong with this have been incorrect on the actual facts.
So now you've gone from saying they had no warrant. I showed you they actually did have warrants. And now you're saying they didn't show it. So when do you produce something that is actually believable and provable?
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it makes it pretty clear...
 
ClaraD said:
it makes it pretty clear...
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Yes it does. The complaints on this particular arrest are fiction.
The other clarity is some reason progressives want to harbor 19 illegal entries with forged US IDs. In addition for an employer that has a complaint for abusing illegal immigrants.
 
j brown's body said:
"Just following orders" died at Nuremberg.
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OK… I don’t agree for how this is getting done BUT…

When laws are being broken, but public sentiment disfavors how the enforcement is being conducted, as a former law enforcer I feel for those who are just doing their jobs and stuck in the middle of this.
 
L88 said:
Yes it does. The complaints on this particular arrest are fiction.
The other clarity is some reason progressives want to harbor 19 illegal entries with forged US IDs. In addition for an employer that has a complaint for abusing illegal immigrants.
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In the video the agent says 'I don't need one' in reference to a warrant and says 'I don't have to show you' in reference to the person asking for identification.
 
ClaraD said:
In the video the agent says 'I don't need one' in reference to a warrant and says 'I don't have to show you' in reference to the person asking for identification.
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Do you have a link?
Who was asking the agent and where?
Why do you want to harbor 19 illegals with forged US green cards at a reportedly abusive employer?
 
L88 said:
Do you have a link?
Who was asking the agent and where?
Why do you want to harbor 19 illegals with forged US green cards at a reportedly abusive employer?
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if the employer was abusive, they qualify for a legal status...did you know that? I am not providing you links, you claimed you had watched all of the videos.
 
ClaraD said:
if the employer was abusive, they qualify for a legal status...did you know that? I am not providing you links, you claimed you had watched all of the videos.
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So you don't have any links.
The links I provided had the abusive claims.

This event will not fit your narrative, no matter what. You should focus on Trump's damaging tariffs and the proposed budget. That's the real threat to this country.
 
ClaraD said:
if you don’t like the 1st amendment then petition to have it changed
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I have no issue with the 1st amendment. If you've read any of my posts about changing the tax code you would know that.
If you don't like the way your steak was cooked, would you attack the waiter who brought it to you?

"...or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

8 USC 1357: Powers of immigration officers and employees
 
ClaraD said:
In the video the agent says 'I don't need one' in reference to a warrant
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8 USC 1357(a) Powers without warrant:
Any officer or employee of the Service authorized under regulations prescribed by the Attorney General shall have power without warrant-
(1) to interrogate any alien or person believed to be an alien as to his right to be or to remain in the United States;
(2) to arrest any alien who in his presence or view is entering or attempting to enter the United States in violation of any law or regulation made in pursuance of law regulating the admission, exclusion, expulsion, or removal of aliens, or to arrest any alien in the United States, if he has reason to believe that the alien so arrested is in the United States in violation of any such law or regulation and is likely to escape before a warrant can be obtained for his arrest, but the alien arrested shall be taken without unnecessary delay for examination before an officer of the Service having authority to examine aliens as to their right to enter or remain in the United States;

So he's correct. Even if you don't like it.

ClaraD said:
and says 'I don't have to show you' in reference to the person asking for identification.
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He's presumably in the middle of an enforcement operation. He's not obligated to stop doing his job and show his badge and creds to every noodle-brained dipshit demanding to see it. I say "presumably" because I have no idea what video you're talking about, as the only video posted here is in the OP and the only thing I hear is one of the aforementioned noodle-brained dipshits repeating, ad nauseum, "**** you guys."

ClaraD said:
if the employer was abusive, they qualify for a legal status...did you know that? I am not providing you links, you claimed you had watched all of the videos.
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They can apply, but that doesn't mean they aren't going to be taken into custody that day.
 
Hamish Howl said:
Have they tried not being gestapo?

I mean, if the gestapo were 20 kilos overweight with food stains on their uniforms?
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Phys251 said:
It was illegal to interfere with the Gestapo, too.
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So, we should have open borders and just allow people to pour over in the 10's of millions in just 4 years(like under the Biden admin), without deporting anyone, and force America's financially stressed taxpayers to pay for their healthcare, housing, children's education(at $10,000 to $25,000 per year, per child)?

Yeah, that seems fair to American citizens.
 
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ModerationNow! said:
So, we should have open borders and just allow people to pour over in the 10's of millions in just 4 years(like under the Biden admin), without deporting anyone, and force America's financially stressed taxpayers to pay for their healthcare, housing, children's education(at $10,000 to $25,000 per year, per child)?

Yeah, that seems fair to American citizens.
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I guess no one told you that Biden turned away/deported undocumented immigrants at a higher rate than Trump.

What Trump is doing is primarily for show.
 
ModerationNow! said:
So, we should have open borders and just allow people to pour over in the 10's of millions in just 4 years(like under the Biden admin), without deporting anyone, and force America's financially stressed taxpayers to pay for their healthcare, housing, children's education(at $10,000 to $25,000 per year, per child)?

Yeah, that seems fair to American citizens.
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You want to blame immigrants for what billionaires are doing to our country.
 
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Grizzly Adams said:
Paywaled, but the part I can se doesn't talk about rates. It talks about raw numbers. Figures show monthly encounters at the southwest border after Trump took office are only about 10% of those in the final 12 months of Biden's term.
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I was trying to find an article that wouldn’t be dismissed out of hand.
 
Grizzly Adams said:
Again, talks about raw numbers and even acknowledges that border encounters have dropped since Biden left office. A 90% drop in encounters will certainly lead to far fewer removals. I'd rather have the 90% drop.
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You read the article? It does talk about rates.

Anyway, my point is that borders weren’t “open” under Biden.
 
NJBob said:
You read the article? It does talk about rates.
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It talks about rates per month, which is really just raw numbers. This will obviously be impacted by a precipitous drop in the number of encounters and doesn't mean enforcement has backed off. What really maters is the rate of removals per encounter. The source I cited above would seem to suggest, in conjunction with your Newsweek article, that although removals have dropped by about a third, the removal per encounter rate has gone way up, as encounters have been slashed by about 90%.
 
Grizzly Adams said:
8 USC 1357(a) Powers without warrant:
Any officer or employee of the Service authorized under regulations prescribed by the Attorney General shall have power without warrant-
(1) to interrogate any alien or person believed to be an alien as to his right to be or to remain in the United States;
(2) to arrest any alien who in his presence or view is entering or attempting to enter the United States in violation of any law or regulation made in pursuance of law regulating the admission, exclusion, expulsion, or removal of aliens, or to arrest any alien in the United States, if he has reason to believe that the alien so arrested is in the United States in violation of any such law or regulation and is likely to escape before a warrant can be obtained for his arrest, but the alien arrested shall be taken without unnecessary delay for examination before an officer of the Service having authority to examine aliens as to their right to enter or remain in the United States;

So he's correct. Even if you don't like it.


He's presumably in the middle of an enforcement operation. He's not obligated to stop doing his job and show his badge and creds to every noodle-brained dipshit demanding to see it. I say "presumably" because I have no idea what video you're talking about, as the only video posted here is in the OP and the only thing I hear is one of the aforementioned noodle-brained dipshits repeating, ad nauseum, "**** you guys."


They can apply, but that doesn't mean they aren't going to be taken into custody that day.
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Maybe if they started enforcing the law about harboring illegal immigrants to those in charge of "sanctuary cites" we might see some changes. For example, the Judge that tried to let a convicted illegal escape ICE, she could face 20 years in prison for this. The law states this under U.S. Code 1324, Section B, pay close attention to Section B paragraph (iv) (B)A person who violates subparagraph (A) shall, for each alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs—
(iv) in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(i), (ii), (iii), (iv), or (v) resulting in the death of any person, be punished by death or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, fined under title 18, or both.
www.law.cornell.edu

8 U.S. Code § 1324 - Bringing in and harboring certain aliens

www.law.cornell.edu www.law.cornell.edu
 
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