My Experience with AI Chat re: Funding

I have been having fun interacting the Chatgpt on a host of topics. Very interesting indeed. Spent some time this morning asking questions on exactly what it is I'm chatting with and how is the program funded. Of course the responses are limited in scope but was very informative relative to who funds AI. The usual suspects like Musk and Linkedln founder plus a current CEO there. But I was surprised to see The National Science Foundation (NSF) and the Office of Naval Research (ONR) provided research grants. The model would not disclose the amount. I'm not a fan of the U.S. government funding the project. Of course these orgs provide funding via research projects over a wide variety of other scientific fields.

The US government has been providing funding for AI research going all the way back to the 50's. So its not a political party thing but just another fat contract.

Are you for tax payer dollars funding this type of research? Is AI funding attached to bills that we just have to sign? Is it being vetted properly?

Again, I find the site beneficial but believe all R&D cost should be bore by the private sector.

What is your take?
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Today, the U.S. National Science Foundation announced the establishment of 11 new NSF National Artificial Intelligence Research Institutes, building on the first round of seven institutes funded in 2020. The combined investment of $220 million expands the reach of these institutes to include a total of 40 states and the District of Columbia.

My take is that nearly every single technological breakthrough in nearly the past hundred years has had it's origins in government funding.

Jezcoe said:

My take is that nearly every single technological breakthrough in nearly the past hundred years has had it's origins in government funding.

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True. But is the government funding needed? I argue no, not for this R&D. The private sector will suffice.

VySky said:

True. But is the government funding needed? I argue no, not for this R&D. The private sector will suffice.

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That would mean that we as a nation are willing to fall behind in technological innovation

VySky said:

True. But is the government funding needed? I argue no, not for this R&D. The private sector will suffice.

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Really?

Jezcoe said:

That would mean that we as a nation are willing to fall behind in technological innovation

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Not really. If the funding is there, why should the government provide any?

VySky said:

I have been having fun interacting the Chatgpt on a host of topics. Very interesting indeed. Spent some time this morning asking questions on exactly what it is I'm chatting with and how is the program funded. Of course the responses are limited in scope but was very informative relative to who funds AI. The usual suspects like Musk and Linkedln founder plus a current CEO there. But I was surprised to see The National Science Foundation (NSF) and the Office of Naval Research (ONR) provided research grants. The model would not disclose the amount. I'm not a fan of the U.S. government funding the project. Of course these orgs provide funding via research projects over a wide variety of other scientific fields.

The US government has been providing funding for AI research going all the way back to the 50's. So its not a political party thing but just another fat contract.

Are you for tax payer dollars funding this type of research? Is AI funding attached to bills that we just have to sign? Is it being vetted properly?

Again, I find the site beneficial but believe all R&D cost should be bore by the private sector.

What is your take?
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Today, the U.S. National Science Foundation announced the establishment of 11 new NSF National Artificial Intelligence Research Institutes, building on the first round of seven institutes funded in 2020. The combined investment of $220 million expands the reach of these institutes to include a total of 40 states and the District of Columbia.

NSF partnerships expand National AI Research Institutes to 40 states

WASHINGTON –Today, the U.S. National Science Foundation announced the establishment of 11 new NSF National Artificial Intelligence Research Institutes, building…

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The greatest breakthroughs in science and technology in the United States have come from initial government funding. Only once that technology has matured to a point where its commercial uses become clear has the private sector stepped in and taken over. This includes airplanes, nuclear technology, missiles, rockets, satellites, DNA and genetics, cancer and other biomedical scientific breakthroughs, lasers, solid state, Hubble and Webb telescopes, computers and internet, ramjet technology, etc, etc,…

That’s because a lot of new science and technology has come from very basic basic research, without the relentless pressure of having to answer to short-sighted investors on how that work is going to boost the stocks of that particular company in the next 6 months.

Look, for example, at some of the frontiers of science today: for example, particle physics- things like the recent discovery of the Higgs particle. It has revolutionized our understanding of how the universe works, and it has opened up tons of other questions. But what are its commercial uses? No one really knows yet. It’s an area of active investigation. So which company do you think is going to fund further R&D into it? That’s right, none.

But only once this matures more and we start seeing those potential uses, you can bet that the private sector is going to be beating down the doors to be taking over. And that’s fine. That’s how it has always worked best.

So I would strongly disagree with this idea that all R&D should be privately funded. It would really kill American scientific and technological leadership. The traditional government/private partnership model in thus US has proven to be very fruitful.

VySky said:

Not really. If the funding is there, why should the government provide any?

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Mainly because competing governments do so. Whether that government funding is done directly (by R&D subsidy) or indirectly (by R&D tax deductions) it’s still a good investment.

VySky said:

I have been having fun interacting the Chatgpt on a host of topics. Very interesting indeed. Spent some time this morning asking questions on exactly what it is I'm chatting with and how is the program funded. Of course the responses are limited in scope but was very informative relative to who funds AI. The usual suspects like Musk and Linkedln founder plus a current CEO there. But I was surprised to see The National Science Foundation (NSF) and the Office of Naval Research (ONR) provided research grants. The model would not disclose the amount. I'm not a fan of the U.S. government funding the project. Of course these orgs provide funding via research projects over a wide variety of other scientific fields.

The US government has been providing funding for AI research going all the way back to the 50's. So its not a political party thing but just another fat contract.

Are you for tax payer dollars funding this type of research? Is AI funding attached to bills that we just have to sign? Is it being vetted properly?

Again, I find the site beneficial but believe all R&D cost should be bore by the private sector.

What is your take?
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Today, the U.S. National Science Foundation announced the establishment of 11 new NSF National Artificial Intelligence Research Institutes, building on the first round of seven institutes funded in 2020. The combined investment of $220 million expands the reach of these institutes to include a total of 40 states and the District of Columbia.

NSF partnerships expand National AI Research Institutes to 40 states

WASHINGTON –Today, the U.S. National Science Foundation announced the establishment of 11 new NSF National Artificial Intelligence Research Institutes, building…

new.nsf.gov

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Tactical to practical. The government helps fund many things in the hopes of developing new weapons. It also gives a kick start to items that help in our everyday lives.

When I talk with ChatGPT, I start with the assumption that they are lying to me.

Great now a computer is telling him what to think.

I think AI has already been weaponized by multiple governments. We already have weapon systems that are capable of destroying enemies without any human orders other than giving them a target.