http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2.../vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/Transcript:Deputy Oleg Tsarov has the wordHonourable ColleaguesHonourable Vladimir VasiljevitchIn my role as a representative of the Ukrainian people……activists of the public organisation "Volya" turned to me……providing clear evidence……that within our territory……with support and direct participation…of the US Embassy in Kiev……the "TechCamp" project is realised……under which preparations are being made for a civil war in Ukraine.The "TechCamp" project prepares specialists for information warfare……and the discrediting of state institutions using modern media……potential revolutionaries……for organising protests…… and the toppling of the State Order.The project is currently overseen and under the responsibility……of the US ambassador to Ukraine……Geoffrey R. Pyatt. (Partial transcript, read the rest)Did the USA initiate the Ukraine crisis?Did the USA plan a Civil War?Have we improved the lot of Ukrainians thus far?Do the citizens of the USA know what Ukraine is about?Poll Question: Did the USA cause the Ukraine Crisis?
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2.../vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/Transcript:Deputy Oleg Tsarov has the wordHonourable ColleaguesHonourable Vladimir VasiljevitchIn my role as a representative of the Ukrainian people……activists of the public organisation "Volya" turned to me……providing clear evidence……that within our territory……with support and direct participation…of the US Embassy in Kiev……the "TechCamp" project is realised……under which preparations are being made for a civil war in Ukraine.The "TechCamp" project prepares specialists for information warfare……and the discrediting of state institutions using modern media……potential revolutionaries……for organising protests…… and the toppling of the State Order.The project is currently overseen and under the responsibility……of the US ambassador to Ukraine……Geoffrey R. Pyatt. (Partial transcript, read the rest)Did the USA initiate the Ukraine crisis?Did the USA plan a Civil War?Have we improved the lot of Ukrainians thus far?Do the citizens of the USA know what Ukraine is about?Poll Question: Did the USA cause the Ukraine Crisis?
This is some really intense divination. A prediction nearly 20,000 years in the future? Damn.
What's up with that link Dave?
The Vineyard of the Saker
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2.../vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/Transcript:Deputy Oleg Tsarov has the wordHonourable ColleaguesHonourable Vladimir VasiljevitchIn my role as a representative of the Ukrainian people……activists of the public organisation "Volya" turned to me……providing clear evidence……that within our territory……with support and direct participation…of the US Embassy in Kiev……the "TechCamp" project is realised……under which preparations are being made for a civil war in Ukraine.The "TechCamp" project prepares specialists for information warfare……and the discrediting of state institutions using modern media……potential revolutionaries……for organising protests…… and the toppling of the State Order.The project is currently overseen and under the responsibility……of the US ambassador to Ukraine……Geoffrey R. Pyatt. (Partial transcript, read the rest)
Did the USA initiate the Ukraine crisis?
Did the USA plan a Civil War?
Have we improved the lot of Ukrainians thus far?
Do the citizens of the USA know what Ukraine is about?
Poll Question: Did the USA cause the Ukraine Crisis?
The Vineyard of the Saker
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2.../vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/Transcript:Deputy Oleg Tsarov has the wordHonourable ColleaguesHonourable Vladimir VasiljevitchIn my role as a representative of the Ukrainian people……activists of the public organisation "Volya" turned to me……providing clear evidence……that within our territory……with support and direct participation…of the US Embassy in Kiev……the "TechCamp" project is realised……under which preparations are being made for a civil war in Ukraine.The "TechCamp" project prepares specialists for information warfare……and the discrediting of state institutions using modern media……potential revolutionaries……for organising protests…… and the toppling of the State Order.The project is currently overseen and under the responsibility……of the US ambassador to Ukraine……Geoffrey R. Pyatt. (Partial transcript, read the rest)
Did the USA initiate the Ukraine crisis?
Did the USA plan a Civil War?
Have we improved the lot of Ukrainians thus far?
Do the citizens of the USA know what Ukraine is about?
Poll Question: Did the USA cause the Ukraine Crisis?
Even if Obama did ignite this civil war, plan it, and help execute it...to the sheep it's just a "fake scandal".
With that said though, I haven't seen any convincing evidence that Obama was behind this. Just Putin's tears.
OMG!!! WOW!!!!
You sure that is bona fide? If it is, that is dynamite!
WOW!!!
It sure looked legitimate to me. It was about 3-4 months before Maidan and revealed
the whole plot by the USA operating out of the Embassy. Nobocy will pay any attention
to it and the MSM perception management people will make sure it doesn't get air time
in the USA.
Actually, I can across this story that is supposedly dated to around that time. So it looks legit.
Tsariov accuses US Embassy of preparations for inciting civil war in Ukraine| Ukrinform
Yes, the same story and dated 11-20-2013, and that is before Maidan. Of course, we already knew
the US was behind this and the perception management team will make certain it does not ever get
in USA MSM. The Do-Gooders are doing bad and sheep don't want to believe it. Their programming
is working terrific. Ain't it a shame.
Any blog material wrapped in tinfoil looks legitimate to you Dave.It sure looked legitimate to me.
Simpleχity;1064252065 said:Any blog material wrapped in tinfoil looks legitimate to you Dave.
Simpleχity;1064252065 said:Any blog material wrapped in tinfoil looks legitimate to you Dave.
What sort of evidence would be convincing to you? Don't expect him to come out and admit it. I don't think they directly planned a civil war. I think it is indeed possible that they thought out the possibility that US actions in Ukraine could lead to a civil war and therefore made preparations for it. They would be rather incompetent if they left behind a smoking gun, and that in itself would be very disturbing.
Wanting independence from Russia, and wanting to independently decide one's future, is neither done alone nor can it be done by incite only. The bottom line is Ukraine wants this, and whatever help they may have gotten is secondary.
There are plenty of ways to see evidence. I have seen none right now. None at all the suggest any US involvement. Everything people say about US involvement is merely their conspiracy theory.
The problem is that there are quite a few people in Ukraine that prefer to be aligned with Russia. Not only that but Yanukovich was democratically elected, as were his predecessors. If we are going to support democracy, we (the US) need to let that process play out, unless there is some direct very compelling interests that dictate otherwise. Ukraine, for better or worse, is situated right next to Russia, and it has historic ties with Russia. Along with their desire to be independent and make their own decisions, they will at the very least have to take into consideration Russia's interests. There is no way around it.
Well you are wrong. There is plenty of evidence of US involvement. And quite frankly, I don't think it is a fault for the US to be involved. I just don't like the way we went about it.
Just to be clear tho, I don't think the purpose was to start a civil war. I want to believe our people are not that stupid.
If Ukraine is independent, why should it worry about another bully country's interests? It instead should mind its own business. Especially this may be so since the bully bear Russia is attempting to annex various Ukrainian territories illegally.
Can you provide us with this "pleny of evidence" so we may examine it and verify your claims? Credible sources will help me better understand your alligations.
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