Muslims protest '24'

CNN: Muslims protest '24'

Unfortunately, many in our society already unfairly judge all Muslims for actions of the minority of extremists. That being said, I don't think you can blame a TV show for portraying Muslim extremists as the "bad guys". First of all, it is a fictional show. Secondly, it doesn't advocate the idea that all Muslims are terrorists. You can't blame a show for how people react to it. Regardless, I don't think the show '24' will have much of an effect on how our society already judges Muslims.

Anyone calling for censorship of any kind should shut the f*** up, censor the censors!

CNN: Muslims protest '24'

Unfortunately, many in our society already unfairly judge all Muslims for actions of the minority of extremists. That being said, I don't think you can blame a TV show for portraying Muslim extremists as the "bad guys". First of all, it is a fictional show. Secondly, it doesn't advocate the idea that all Muslims are terrorists. You can't blame a show for how people react to it. Regardless, I don't think the show '24' will have much of an effect on how our society already judges Muslims.

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I remember a show called "Sue Thomas F.B.Eye" it use to play on one of the local channels here and for every episode talking about italian mobsters there were 8 about muslim extremists. I can see how people can feel like their religion/culture is being targetted and milked for money because of the current situation the world is in. However to insinuate that a show like 24 would be trying to bring out hate for muslims is ridiculous.

dclxvinoise said:

CNN: Muslims protest '24'

Unfortunately, many in our society already unfairly judge all Muslims for actions of the minority of extremists. That being said, I don't think you can blame a TV show for portraying Muslim extremists as the "bad guys". First of all, it is a fictional show. Secondly, it doesn't advocate the idea that all Muslims are terrorists. You can't blame a show for how people react to it. Regardless, I don't think the show '24' will have much of an effect on how our society already judges Muslims.

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I judge them by the actions of the so called "few" and the LACK of a response by all the peace living Muslims out there...roll: )..., other then to say "Its only a few bad ones"

As for the TV program "24" do they know its make believe?...:roll:
To see the real deal all you need to do is turn on the TV.

18/01/07
"Blasts in Baghdad kill 14 as violence rises
At least 5 car bombs detonate, including 3 in a single vegetable market"

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Its all too easy..They allow these people to speak for Muslims or they find their own voice.

cherokee said:

I judge them by the actions of the so called "few" and the LACK of a response by all the peace living Muslims out there...roll: )..., other then to say "Its only a few bad ones"

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A-f'ing-men...

cherokee said:

I judge them by the actions of the so called "few" and the LACK of a response by all the peace living Muslims out there...roll: )..., other then to say "Its only a few bad ones"

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Still, do you think that justifies judging them all by such a shallow stereotype because you haven't heard anything from the normal Muslims? Even if some of them did speak out, it wouldn't make a difference for some people. People need a scapegoat and Muslims are a convenient one. I liken this situation to our treatment of Japanese people during WWII.

Would it be fair to judge all Christians on the atrocities that extremist Christians in the past have committed?

As for the TV program "24" do they know its make believe?...:roll:
To see the real deal all you need to do is turn on the TV.

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I can understand where they are coming from and why they feel threatened. However, I think their fear is misguided by worrying that a tv show is going to create something that is already problem. It is simply a tv show and I highly doubt that the writers of the show were rubbing their hands together while hoping for the downfall of Muslims everywhere.

Its all too easy..They allow these people to speak for Muslims or they find their own voice.

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Here's an example of Muslims speaking out:

5 Years on, US Muslims Decry Prejudice

What degree of speaking out will be good enough for people so they quit judging the actions of the extremist minority on the entire group?

It's a TV show!!
What about the Sopranos? (Italians)
How about westerns? (Indians)
Cops shows?(the criminal is a black man)
Mysteries? (the white collar criminal is a white man)
and on and on

It's a free country, they can say what they wish, but like last weeks Nicole Ritchie news, it'll pass and life goes on.

:lol:

dclxvinoise said:

Still, do you think that justifies judging them all by such a shallow stereotype because you haven't heard anything from the normal Muslims? Even if some of them did speak out, it wouldn't make a difference for some people. People need a scapegoat and Muslims are a convenient one. I liken this situation to our treatment of Japanese people during WWII.

Would it be fair to judge all Christians on the atrocities that extremist Christians in the past have committed?



I can understand where they are coming from and why they feel threatened. However, I think their fear is misguided by worrying that a tv show is going to create something that is already problem. It is simply a tv show and I highly doubt that the writers of the show were rubbing their hands together while hoping for the downfall of Muslims everywhere.



Here's an example of Muslims speaking out:

5 Years on, US Muslims Decry Prejudice

What degree of speaking out will be good enough for people so they quit judging the actions of the extremist minority on the entire group?

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Would it be fair to judge all Christians on the atrocities that extremist Christians in the past have committed?

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Gee-wiz is this still going on today?
I think not...........

From the same damn site....

IslamOnline.net- Muslim Affairs

Thanks but No thanks I will continue to judge them all.

I do not judge Muslims.
I do however take as my view of them as is dictated by both their actions and response to those actions by the majority of their fellow believers

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(Here's an example of Muslims speaking out:

5 Years on, US Muslims Decry Prejudice

What degree of speaking out will be good enough for people so they quit judging the actions of the extremist minority on the entire group?)

Interesting quote in so far as those who express distaste for what their fellow believers do, seemingly these folk only exist in the US (see quote).

Whereas the majority of Muslims throughout various parts of the world have evidently no opinion or have no method of showing their opinion or simply do not care.
As we have seen, vast swathes of Muslims have no problem in revealing their opinion when they believe (rightly or wrongly) that their religion has been slighted, seems quite strange to me that when they can and do express their outrage there is no problem in getting the world to recognise that they are angered, but when it comes to expressing their outrage at the prostitution of their fellow believers, why we listen, but hear not a peep of protest, except of course from the US contingent.

cherokee said:

Gee-wiz is this still going on today?
I think not...........

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So what? Those things still happened. The only reason they aren't still happening is because Christians live in far more civilized surroundings now. The point is that any religion with a "my way or the highway" ideology is potentially dangerous. That still doesn't justify juding the majority for the actions of the minority.

From the same damn site....

IslamOnline.net- Muslim Affairs

Thanks but No thanks I will continue to judge them all.

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How exactly does that justify your condemnation of all Muslims? All it proves is that they are a lot of Muslim extremists out there. That still doesn't justify judging them all by such shallow criteria.

This is ridiculous. What I find so interesting is that Islam is one of the fastest if not the fastest growing religion in the world today, even in the US. So with all this bad publicity and crazy shite going on in the world people are still flocking to Islam which really makes you go huh? I mean how can Islam be growing in the US today????

If you were already a peace loving Muslim and this current crap has nothing to do with you and feel bad that your religion has been "hijacked" so to speak I can have some sympathy.

But to live in the world we do today and be a citizen of the US and decide at this moment, "I'm gonna become a Muslim!" That's just something that greatly concerns me and I can't wrap my head around it. Why is the religion growing? Maybe over seas where it's cool to be anti-west but right here in the US? Who the hell are these people they are converting? It doesn't make a heck of a lot of sense to me.:roll:

dclxvinoise said:

So what? Those things still happened. The only reason they aren't still happening is because Christians live in far more civilized surroundings now. The point is that any religion with a "my way or the highway" ideology is potentially dangerous. That still doesn't justify juding the majority for the actions of the minority.

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Fine then the majority needs to stand against the minority. IN PUBLIC.
It’s that simple.

dclxvinoise said:

How exactly does that justify your condemnation of all Muslims? All it proves is that they are a lot of Muslim extremists out there. That still doesn't justify judging them all by such shallow criteria.

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Sorry pal but before you go grab a link and say "Here look Muslims against the bad few" Make sure it doesn’t have a shining page about the hezbollah...:doh

These protestors need to grow up FFS! It's a show, its not real....

How about these people protest about the daily sectarian killings in Iraq, or about the human rights abuses commited in Pakistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, Libya, Jordan..... All in the name of Islam........

Australianlibertarian said:

These protestors need to grow up FFS! It's a show, its not real....
How about these people protest about the daily sectarian killings in Iraq, or about the human rights abuses commited in Pakistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, Libya, Jordan..... All in the name of Islam........

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Naw they would rather just go ape-chit over a cartoon.......:roll:

cherokee said:

Naw they would rather just go ape-chit over a cartoon.......:roll:

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I dont understand that though some people make fun of jews on a constant basis in some Muslim countries...they portray jews as vampires and killers or slobs and child eaters...but they get mad when someone takes a shot at them with a friggin cartoon? **** off. LoL. How about you just make a few cartoons making fun of Jews? dont go burning George Bush dolls and U.S. flags...just make some funnier cartoons about Kosher food or Nordic women stereotypes. jeez people today. Did anybody see the pictures of crazy people running around Islamabad blaming the U.S. for those Danish cartoons? How the hell do you blame the U.S. for cartoonists in Europe? Pretty lite strawman I'm willing to bet.

Hatuey said:

I dont understand that though some people make fun of jews on a constant basis in some Muslim countries...they portray jews as vampires and killers or slobs and child eaters...but they get mad when someone takes a shot at them with a friggin cartoon? **** off. LoL. How about you just make a few cartoons making fun of Jews? dont go burning George Bush dolls and U.S. flags...just make some funnier cartoons about Kosher food or Nordic women stereotypes. jeez people today. Did anybody see the pictures of crazy people running around Islamabad blaming the U.S. for those Danish cartoons? How the hell do you blame the U.S. for cartoonists in Europe? Pretty lite strawman I'm willing to bet.

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Cartoon Body Count | Death by Drawing

139 deaths, 800+ injured.

for cartoons.

talloulou said:

This is ridiculous. What I find so interesting is that Islam is one of the fastest if not the fastest growing religion in the world today, even in the US. So with all this bad publicity and crazy shite going on in the world people are still flocking to Islam which really makes you go huh? I mean how can Islam be growing in the US today????

If you were already a peace loving Muslim and this current crap has nothing to do with you and feel bad that your religion has been "hijacked" so to speak I can have some sympathy.

But to live in the world we do today and be a citizen of the US and decide at this moment, "I'm gonna become a Muslim!" That's just something that greatly concerns me and I can't wrap my head around it. Why is the religion growing? Maybe over seas where it's cool to be anti-west but right here in the US? Who the hell are these people they are converting? It doesn't make a heck of a lot of sense to me.:roll:

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A lot of the converts are already on the margins of society. Prisoners are prime targets.