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Years ago I read about a Wisconsin man who found a dead deer on the road, took it home, ate it, and then mounted the head as a trophy. It was never clear why he valued his roadkill to mount it, or why state game wardens went to court to recover it. The story came to mind with the indictment of Donald Trump associate Roger Stone by a grand jury in the special counsel investigation. Stone is charged with false statements, obstruction based on those false statements, and witness tampering.
This is not the big game that Robert Mueller was hunting when he began his investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. Despite the breathless news coverage, the indictment is underwhelming and far from what many predicted. As for the media, it seems to be only counting heads of Trump associates indicted, as opposed to what they were actually charged with. The media has long described Stone as the possible Trump campaign conduit to WikiLeaks and the Russians, citing his presumed communications with Julian Assange and his advance knowledge of the Democratic Party and Clinton campaign email hacks.
Yet, none of that was confirmed or even suggested in the indictment. There was no charge of collusion. No hint of meetings or arrangements with Assange. Not even a charge as an unregistered foreign agent of the Russians. Just collateral crimes with nary a mention of collusion and a defendant who alternatively presents himself as the tragically comic and the comically tragic figure mired in the special counsel investigation.
As usual, legal expert Johnathan Turley hits it out of the ballpark! The opinion piece is lengthy, but so worth the read....Note, nothing in the indictment suggests Stone took part in Russia collusion but that's not what some prominent Democrats such as Ted Lieu, the leftist media, and their lemmings will have you believe. Therein lies the real circus show.
"Mueller hunt for Russia collusion turns into circus show with Stone"
https://thehill.com/opinion/judicia...a-collusion-turns-into-circus-show-with-stone
There IS a purpose for the circus show: Gathering public support for the eventual House impeachment circus show that's coming down the road.
Which begs the question, Mycroft.
If Mueller's circus show can't produce any evidence of Trump collusion with the Russians how will the House Democrats?
They don't care about actual evidence. They are counting on being able to impeach Trump based on perception.
"Mueller hunt for Russia collusion turns into circus show with Stone"
Which begs the question, Mycroft.
If Mueller's circus show can't produce any evidence of Trump collusion with the Russians how will the House Democrats?
Lol. See my siggy.
If Mueller can't produce evidence of collusion, I don't think the Democrats will. Having said that, I don't think there is any indication yet of what exactly Mueller has found. We know he's found SOMETHING, and that it is bad enough to get indictments and cooperation from witnesses. The very fact that indictments are still coming and the investigation is ongoing makes it far less likely that Mueller has nothing on Trump, though it is technically possible. That crimes connected to Donald Trump are part of Mueller's findings is all but assured at this point.
If Mueller found collusion with the Russians, we'd know it by now and there would be NO way Trump would still be in office.
Mueller and the rest of the circus clowns continue to charge some with process crimes, or in Manafort's and Cohen's case, tax crimes, but all he's been trying to do is to squeeze those he's charged.
All he needs is one good ripe lemon. Where's the juice?
Like I said above, if the ringmaster had anything like collusion with the Russians, we'd know by now.
That's putting it mildly.As usual, legal expert Johnathan Turley hits it out of the ballpark! The opinion piece is lengthy, but so worth the read....Note, nothing in the indictment suggests Stone took part in Russia collusion but that's not what some prominent Democrats such as Ted Lieu, the leftist media, and their lemmings will have you believe. Therein lies the real circus show.
"Mueller hunt for Russia collusion turns into circus show with Stone"
https://thehill.com/opinion/judicia...a-collusion-turns-into-circus-show-with-stone
Unlikely. Mueller can't eject Trump from office even if he knew for a fact he colluded, nor can he charge someone with a crime before it is fully investigated. And as tight-lipped as Mueller has been with this investigation, you can't conclude that Trump would be gone by now. As we saw with Hillary, investigations take years and this one has far higher stakes and already has related indictments. Mueller is smart to keep a lid on it until all the facts are in. The fact that he isn't yet done with the investigation means that Trump technically COULD still be innocent, but is not evidence of that.
Unlikely. Mueller can't eject Trump from office even if he knew for a fact he colluded, nor can he charge someone with a crime before it is fully investigated.
And as tight-lipped as Mueller has been with this investigation, you can't conclude that Trump would be gone by now. As we saw with Hillary, investigations take years and this one has far higher stakes and already has related indictments. Mueller is smart to keep a lid on it until all the facts are in. The fact that he isn't yet done with the investigation means that Trump technically COULD still be innocent, but is not evidence of that
And the circus show is Roger Stone desperately trying to make another round of his meaningless blathering relevant. "oh boy, I have been indicted.... AIRTIME!!" He is the Fred Flintstone of modern politics: "Yabba, dabba, do".
Unlikely. Mueller can't eject Trump from office even if he knew for a fact he colluded, nor can he charge someone with a crime before it is fully investigated. And as tight-lipped as Mueller has been with this investigation, you can't conclude that Trump would be gone by now. As we saw with Hillary, investigations take years and this one has far higher stakes and already has related indictments. Mueller is smart to keep a lid on it until all the facts are in. The fact that he isn't yet done with the investigation means that Trump technically COULD still be innocent, but is not evidence of that.
Because the stakes are higher, Mueller should state whether or not if Trump is under criminal investigation, and if so, for what.
As usual, legal expert Johnathan Turley hits it out of the ballpark! The opinion piece is lengthy, but so worth the read....Note, nothing in the indictment suggests Stone took part in Russia collusion but that's not what some prominent Democrats such as Ted Lieu, the leftist media, and their lemmings will have you believe. Therein lies the real circus show.
"Mueller hunt for Russia collusion turns into circus show with Stone"
https://thehill.com/opinion/judicia...a-collusion-turns-into-circus-show-with-stone
I never eluded to the fact that Mueller would toss Trump out of office, but make no mistake about it, if Mueller had found Trump collusion with the Russians, he'd have been impeached and tossed out of office by now. That's my point above.
Mueller has nothing and will continue to charge Trump's cohorts with process type crimes to squeeze them attempting to get a collusion with the Russians charge. If it hasn't happened yet, realistically it will never happen. Of course the Russians interfered with our elections. They always have just like we interfere in the elections of other countries.
I never eluded to the fact that Mueller would toss Trump out of office, but make no mistake about it, if Mueller had found Trump collusion with the Russians, he'd have been impeached and tossed out of office by now.
Because the stakes are higher, Mueller should state whether or not if Trump is under criminal investigation, and if so, for what.
On what do you base this? What is the deadline for this type of an investigation? And why would you set a limit on any investigation? It should end when all of the facts are known.
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