Most Trump tariffs ruled illegal in blow to White House trade policy

[maxparrish]

wages are up. they were up under 45 - middle class workers as well unlike Obama's recovery.

ICYMI: Blue-Collar Wage Growth Sees Largest Increase in Nearly 60 Years Under Trump

In President Donald J. Trump’s first five months in office, real wages for hourly workers have seen their largest increase under any administration in

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it's 8 months into Trump's presidency and you are quite content to have a failed president I'm not and aside from some of the LW loons on here most don't want a failed US president. I certainly didn't want Biden (20% inflation) to be the disaster he was.
I believe you agree on that fact.

IOW I've answered you a couple times now with what I see are the facts tariffs are integral to many part of his POTUS. I listed them.
If tariffs are bad policy, and fail on their own -so be it. But for some obscure trade court to be able to undo this 8 months
is something only the lawyer driven society along with rank partisanship could happen in the USA.

Tariffs are even a lynch pin of Trump getting into a globalist posture in the Ukraine war, if he ever pulls the string on Putin
Or maybe endless war...but I digress.

As I also noted hopefully SCOTUS sees the disaster of unraveling a president back to square one.
I should not have to explain that is bad for the USA

 

[maxparrish]

As the thread seems exhausted, a few closing comments.

First, a "real wages" spin chart from the administration has nothing to do with the tariffs. However, you correctly perceive that I think that both Biden and Trump pursued horrible economic policies that added substantially to inflation and to the deficit.

Second, for the record, other official figures and other analysis do show significant real wage growth under Clinton. Bush Jr, and Obama as well. More importantly remember that President rarely determines his own economic outcomes: Presidents don't control business cycles, pandemics, fed policy, globalization, oil embargos, or new markets like Tech Booms. etc. And when they come into office, those Presidents must inherit the budget and economic trends of the prior 4 years.

In fact, Clinton, Bush Jr., and Obama ALL started their first term just after the beginning of a recession, and Reagan confronted huge inflation and stagnation after his win - none of which confronted Trump.

Third, you think it is a Presidential failure to NOT to get bad policies implemented. I consider the failure to do harm a success. So, I am quite content with Trump having success by noy doing anything, even if it isn't what he'd call it.

Fourth, your "so be it" indifference to the consequences of Trump destroying the Intenational trade and financial order has been noted before. And while I don't doubt that you see tariffs an integral to something, I doubt Trump does - not given his very chaotic and shifting rationalizations and bat shit crazy hyperbole.

Last, we get your vexation over a specialized and expert qualified court made for the sole purpose of adjudicating trade law and obligations should settle this controversy - but as the judiciary itself knows it is the one that has sole authority and expertise to determine the law on this subject...not some Trump crony in the Northern District of Texas whose a leader in reversals.

The problem here isn't that we are lawyer driven, but LAW driven and that judges enforce the law as they understand it to be written. For all your carping, we still await what system is better as there is not any alternative other than making Presidents kings and without obligation to obey any of them - aka despotism.

Well which is it...and stop dodging.