aquapub
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aquapub said:On CBS Man Blasts Bush for Stuporous Response Compared to Iraq
In the middle of a Thursday CBS Evening News story on the destruction in Slidell, Louisiana, across Lake Pontchartrain from New Orleans, reporter Mark Strassmann showcased a distraught man "with a message for the President" who blasted Bush for how he responded in Iraq while not doing so for Louisiana. Anthony Nata charged: "You can go into Iraq and come in with big helicopters and set stuff up for people, but you can't do this for us? Come on, Bush. You can do better than that."
2. CNN's Jack Cafferty Again Goes on Anti-Bush Tirade, CBS Joins In
Two days after CNN's Jack Cafferty demanded to know, "Where's President Bush? Is he still on vacation?" and snidely suggested that "based on his approval rating in the latest polls, my guess is getting back to work might not be a terrible idea," on Thursday's Situation Room Cafferty took off after Bush again. At about 3:30pm EDT during his "Cafferty File" segment, he suddenly found the conservative New Hampshire Union Leader very wise and quoted approvingly from their Wednesday editorial: "'A better leader would have flown straight to the disaster zone and announced the immediate mobilization of every available resource....The cool, confident, intuitive leadership Bush exhibited in his first term, particularly in the months following 9/11, has vanished.'" He piled on with how a New York Times editorial excoriated Bush "for 'appearing casual to the point of carelessness.'" Later, on the CBS Evening News, Bill Plante also found the Union Leader editorial worthy of highlighting. with audio
3. Olbermann Mocks Condoleezza Rice for Seeing "Comedy on Broadway"
MSNBC's Keith Olbermann on Thursday night took a series of gratuitous shots as he strongly suggested George W. Bush and Condoleezza Rice have some personal culpability for shortcomings in federal action following Hurricane Katrina. On his Countdown show he asserted that "8,000 Guardsmen from Mississippi and Louisiana who might have helped, might have been deployed in the relief efforts are, in fact, in Iraq and not in Mississippi and Louisiana" and cited how Bush "claimed this morning, quote, 'I don't think anybody anticipated a breach of the levees,'" but countered that "there was a U.S. News and World Report article detailing just what would happen if they were breached that was published exactly six weeks ago." (So, if President Bush read an article in a magazine that would have changed anything? Isn't there a whole federal agency full of people charged with disaster relief?) And, in his cheapest shot, Olbermann pointed out how Rice "has cut short her vacation and made it back to her office just four days after New Orleans was besieged, just a day after she reportedly saw a comedy on Broadway in New York City."
4. Raines: Bush Worries Over Big Oil as "Poor Drown in Their Attics"
In a Thursday column for the Los Angeles Times, former New York Times Executive Editor Howell Raines joined the left wing in using the tragedy of Hurricane Katrina to bash Bush: "The dilatory performance of George Bush during the past week has been outrageous. Almost as unbelievable as Katrina itself is the fact that the leader of the free world has been outshone by the elected leaders of a region renowned for governmental ineptitude." Raines ended with this blast which echoed the radical left: "The churchgoing cultural populism of George Bush has given the United States an administration that worries about the House of Saud and the welfare of oil companies while the poor drown in their attics and their sons and daughters die in foreign deserts."
5. ABC's Diane Sawyer to Bush: "Will You Call for Tax Increases?"
Update to the Thursday CyberAlert item about how ABC's Diane Sawyer, in a live Good Morning America interview, hit President Bush with a series of liberal talking point questions designed to politicize the hurricane recovery effort. That interview aired in the 7am half hour. At the top of the 7:30am half hour Thursday, Sawyer related some questions she had posed to Bush off air, including her using the tragedy as an excuse to push for a tax hike: "I also asked him about this idea that the whole economy could be torqued by this in such a way. And I said, 'will you call for tax increases, in fact, if that's required?'"
SouthernDemocrat said:Thats not examples of liberal bias, but rather its reality. I mean you must have your head up pretty high in Limbaugh's colon not to see the reality on the ground down there in New Orleans.
First of all, I don't appreciate my state being used as a liberal playtoy. Second most of our national guard is still in Louisiana, the 256th is currently serving in Iraq in which some of my friends are involved(not like liberals care). Third, and I hate to have to do this again, but the people who are most responsible for this, that is STATE and LOCAL are liberal democrats. Finally, we as a state appreciate help from anyone, I am in a very safe city as a permanent resident, we are taking in extra evacuees from the area and our hearts are broken, the president has done alot already and I don't see how anyone can be callous enough to use this CATASTROPHE for their own agenda or worse, to reinforce a very narrow and short-sided worldview, anyone who does makes me sick.Argonath said:If he didn't have the National Guard in Iraq, then maybe the risk of wide-spread disease and death could have been avoided. But, theres oi- *cough cough*- Terrorist cells, to be found, so, you can't really blame him
Let me ask you a few things.Argonath said:Exploit what? that they took three days to get there?
Let me ask you a few things.Argonath said:Exploit what? that they took three days to get there?
LaMidRighter said:Let me ask you a few things.
1) have you ever had to evacuate 1.3 million people in 3 days. and
2) how would you accomplish that?
3) Bonus: would you have left your property knowing that-
a) there is a large criminal element waiting for the chance to take your property after you and leave and the cops get too busy to intervene.
b) It may not be there anymore.
c) your friends and family could be lost and you will not see them again.
d) You trust your elected officials to not let this kind of thing happen.
e) something like this hasn't happened in many people'
LaMidRighter said:First of all, I don't appreciate my state being used as a liberal playtoy. Second most of our national guard is still in Louisiana, the 256th is currently serving in Iraq in which some of my friends are involved(not like liberals care). Third, and I hate to have to do this again, but the people who are most responsible for this, that is STATE and LOCAL are liberal democrats. Finally, we as a state appreciate help from anyone, I am in a very safe city as a permanent resident, we are taking in extra evacuees from the area and our hearts are broken, the president has done alot already and I don't see how anyone can be callous enough to use this CATASTROPHE for their own agenda or worse, to reinforce a very narrow and short-sided worldview, anyone who does makes me sick.
No this is not fact and this is what he means when he say's things like "liberal play toy?"
Once again, if the Louisiana National Guard was in Louisiana instead of getting in the way in Iraq, they would have been trapped in the storm just like any other civilian. "Help still would have had to come from outside the state."
There is blame to go around in many different places for why things didn't happen faster than people wanted.
Some possibles:
1. Why did it take the national guard so long to mobilize? Because it's the National Guard and reacting quickly is not what they do. By the way, the President did not send them three days later. He sent them when they were finally prepared to go and after the danger had subsided. Being a part of Humanitarian efforts around the world, you cannot not just rush in to help. It does no good to get yourself into some trouble, so that now a seperate force has to be launched to rescue you too. Now, I'm a Marine and this is our SOP. You can imagine what the National Guard's SOP is like.
2. Why did it take so long for the Federal Government and it's many different departments to organize efforts? You got about a dozen places to investigate.
Is this what you are doing? No...you are taking advantage of the situation to blast away at the President. There is a lot of tragedy going on and panicking through frustration comes with every tragedy. Same crap, different event. Turn your news media off and let the reporters that are throwing in their political opinions as they report the facts influence someone else. I believe this is what he means.
SixStringHero said:"The only help I could make is donations and saying that look at what the Tsunami people did to rebuild thier lives. They could be an example to motivate us. If a third world country can do it, then by god, we can too."
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Okay, first off, who do you think was on the ground helping out in the first place? Without America's help along with some of the rest of the International community that would region would never have been able to deal with such a natural disaster. America's contributions to that relief effort were vast and don't think for a moment that they would have been able to do nearly as much without international help and ours.
Just the other day I saw Jessie Jackson on Larry King stating that Bush doesn't care for these people, and was essentially placing all the blame on the president. I'm sick of seeing idiots politicize national tragedies.
I don't subscribe to this disaster being any president's fault but if you want to take that route than why are some of you people mysteriously silent about the fact that Clinton cut some of the funding that was originally supposed to be allocated for strengthening the levee. Where's the criticism there? Obviously it's just disingenuous partisan crap once again.
GySgt said:Much like 9/11 when the President was accused of not caring because he sat in a class room for an extra twenty minutes, people are already hastening to show how much our President doesn't care about our recent disaster because he did not rush to fill sandbags amidst the looting.
Let's not focus on the problem...let's instead find out if President Bush wept enough to satisfy his haters....right?
I don't know where you got your timeline from, but a state of emergency was not called until the twenty seventh, two days before the storm hit on the twenty ninth. That little slip of fact shows a lack of credibility from the source.http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=69494 By the way, the State of Emergeny was requested by the president, that should have been the governors job in the first place.argexpat said:This goes out to all "liberal media" conspiracy theorists who like to use anecdotal evidence:
Both the Washington Post and (recent "liberal media" whipping boy) Newsweek obediently, and ineptly, passed on -- and thus gave credence to -- the Bush lie that Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco’s hesitancy to declare a state of emergency had prevented the feds from responding to the crisis more rapidly.
The Post, citing an anonymous “senior Bush official,” reported on Sunday that, as of Saturday, Sept. 3, Blanco “still had not declared a state of emergency”… when, in fact, the declaration had been made on Friday, August 26 -- over 2 days BEFORE Katrina made landfall in Louisiana (and while Bush was getting his tire pumped by Lance Armstrong at his "ranch"). This claim was so demonstrably false that the paper was forced to issue a correction just hours after the original story appeared.
Newsweek’s effort to assist the Bush damage control effort was even more egregious. While claiming that “Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Barbineaux Blanco seemed uncertain and sluggish, hesitant to declare martial law or a state of emergency, which would have opened the door to more Pentagon help” the magazine didn’t even bother to cite a “senior Bush official,” choosing instead to report Blanco’s alleged failings as unsubstantiated fact. Wonder where they got that “fact”? You think it might have been from the same “senior Bush official” that snookered the Post?
Conventional wisdom is a little better than anecdotal wouldn't you say? Our governor did little to prep, I live here, you don't, and she looked like a complete idiot the day after the storm hit, she isn't doing @#$% except for alot of complaining, which doesn't help.So, there you have it, proof positive of Republican bias in the media, right? Right? And there's more where that came from. That's the beauty of anecdotal evidence, you can find it anywhere and use it to prove anything.
-from the site.There were many other instances of bungling. Federal officials, accustomed to serving a supportive but not commanding role in a disaster, waited for specific requests from state and local officials. Local officials, overwhelmed, trapped by the devastation around them, and unable to survey the damage, couldn't gather the information they needed to make specific requests. Radio communication was impossible and phone service as bad.
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