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My nephew is a gun smith. He sent me an email about this the other day.
This needs to be challenged in court. Its idiotic and is designed to harass lawful gun owners
BREAKING: Obama Signs New Gun Control Executive Order. Puts Gunsmiths Out of Business
So basically the government is going to have a nice, new confusing way to go after gunsmiths and small, niche part makers. It is likely that the increases expenses and complications of this process will simply force many of these professionals out of business.
The Administration says that requiring a government issued photo ID to vote is too much of an impediment to the right to vote for certain groups of low income individuals, but the loops, hoops, and hurdles iontained in this Executive Order are not an impediment to the rights of small gunsmiths, or people like me that have a small metal working machine shop, or our 2nd Amendment rights? I thought it was Congress that had the power to regulate interstate commerce, not the executive? This is, along with being more anti-gun hatred, another example of the Obama Administration circumventing the Congress as well as Article I and Article II, Section 3, of the US Constitution. January cannot come quickly enough.
So if I make something on my machine I might be subject to this horse crap if I sell it?
If you make something on your machine, you may be subject to this horse crap even if you just keep it for yourself to use.
My nephew is a gun smith. He sent me an email about this the other day.
This needs to be challenged in court. Its idiotic and is designed to harass lawful gun owners
BREAKING: Obama Signs New Gun Control Executive Order. Puts Gunsmiths Out of Business
So basically the government is going to have a nice, new confusing way to go after gunsmiths and small, niche part makers. It is likely that the increases expenses and complications of this process will simply force many of these professionals out of business.
On Friday, July 22, just as members of his party were gathering in Philadelphia to coronate Hillary Clinton as their presidential nominee, the Obama Administration once again released a sweeping gun control measure by executive fiat. This time the bad news came via the U.S. State Department’s Directorate of Defense Trade Controls (DDTC), which is primarily responsible for administering the Arms Export Control Act (AECA) and its implementing rules, the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR). The upshot is that DDTC is labeling commercial gunsmiths as “manufacturers” for performing relatively simple work such as threading a barrel or fabricating a small custom part for an older firearm. Under the AECA, “manufacturers” are required to register with DDTC at significant expense or risk onerous criminal penalties.
https://www.nraila.org/articles/201...tration-releases-latest-executive-gun-control
United States Department of State
Bureau of Political Military Affairs
Directorate of Defense Trade Controls
Washington, D.C. 20520-0112
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/executive-orders
no such executive order listed
anyone have a source to the text of the alleged executive order?
Here ya go: "This time the bad news came" Click the link, it should fetch the PDF.
i keep looking for without locating the Executive Order Number for this alleged XO. how about listing that Executive Order Number for us all to see
BREAKING: Obama Signs New Gun Control Executive Order. Puts Gunsmiths Out of Business
By Reagan Wilson on July 29, 2016
President Obama has just signed a new executive order that will essentially put a majority of small gunsmiths and niche gun parts makers out of business. Essentially, the new regulations mean that small gunsmiths who fabricate or modify parts of any kind could be labeled as manufacturers under current ITAR regulations.
According to the NRA-ILA (who does a better job of explaining these changes than we ever could):
On Friday, July 22, just as members of his party were gathering in Philadelphia to coronate Hillary Clinton as their presidential nominee, the Obama Administration once again released a sweeping gun control measure by executive fiat. This time the bad news came via the U.S. State Department’s Directorate of Defense Trade Controls (DDTC), which is primarily responsible for administering the Arms Export Control Act (AECA) and its implementing rules, the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR). The upshot is that DDTC is labeling commercial gunsmiths as “manufacturers” for performing relatively simple work such as threading a barrel or fabricating a small custom part for an older firearm. Under the AECA, “manufactures” are required to register with DDTC at significant expense or risk onerous criminal penalties.
As with prior executive actions on guns, the administration released its dictate suddenly and without advance warning to or prior input from affected businesses, completely bypassing the normal formalities associated with a significant rulemaking. The guidance is also likely to result in more confusion than clarity and may significantly chill heretofore legal conduct associated with gunsmithing.
By way of background, the AECA and ITAR concern rules by which military materiel is exported from, and imported to, the United States. The so-called “defense articles” governed by the AECA/ITAR are compiled in what is known as the U.S. Munitions List and include some, but not all, firearms and ammunition, as well as their parts and components. Thus, for purposes of the regime, a spring or floorplate from the magazine of a controlled firearm is subject to the same regulatory framework as the firearm itself.
The AECA/ITAR require anybody who engages in the business of “manufacturing” a defense article to register with DDTC and pay a registration fee that for new applicants is currently $2,250 per year. These requirements apply, even if the business does not, and does not intend to, export any defense article. Moreover, under ITAR, “only one occasion of manufacturing … a defense article” is necessary for a commercial entity to be considered “engaged in the business” and therefore subject to the regime’s requirements.
Adding to the confusion, the Gun Control Act of 1968 and its amendments (GCA) also regulate firearm manufacturing, importing, and exporting. Both of the laws also use the same or similar terms but apply them in different ways. Thus, what triggers the legal requirement for an entity to be registered as a “manufacturer” under the AECA/ITAR may or may not also bring that entity within the scope of the GCA, and vice versa.
DDTC’s new “guidance” only makes this situation worse by coming up with a confusing and counterintuitive list of activities that it considers “gunsmithing” versus “manufacturing” (despite the fact that it insists it relies on the “ordinary, contemporary, common meaning” of those terms).
So basically the government is going to have a nice, new confusing way to go after gunsmiths and small, niche part makers. It is likely that the increases expenses and complications of this process will simply force many of these professionals out of business.
BREAKING: Obama Issues Executive Order That May Drive Gunsmiths Out of Business
July 28, 2016
President Obama has the ability to issue “executive orders” that direct the agencies controlled by the Office of the President to change the way they operate. Government agencies have a large amount of leeway when it comes to the interpretation of the law and how it applies to the American people, and these executive orders are intended to allow the president to specifically direct those agencies in whatever manner he sees fit.
Last Friday President Obama [URL="http://pmddtc.state.gov/compliance/Applicability%20of%20the%20ITAR%20Registration%20Requirement%20to%20Firearms%20Manufacturers%20%28Publish%29.pdf"]issued one such order which changed the definition of a “manufacturer” under the ITAR treaty regulations, a change which now means anyone who so much as threads a barrel on a firearm needs to pay thousands more dollars in fees and is subject to further registration. From the NRA:
By way of background, the AECA and ITAR concern rules by which military materiel is exported from, and imported to, the United States. The so-called “defense articles” governed by the AECA/ITAR are compiled in what is known as the U.S. Munitions List and include some, but not all, firearms and ammunition, as well as their parts and components.
Thus, for purposes of the regime, a spring or floorplate from the magazine of a controlled firearm is subject to the same regulatory framework as the firearm itself.
The AECA/ITAR require anybody who engages in the business of “manufacturing” a defense article to register with DDTC and pay a registration fee that for new applicants is currently $2,250 per year. These requirements apply, even if the business does not, and does not intend to, export any defense article.
Moreover, under ITAR, “only one occasion of manufacturing … a defense article” is necessary for a commercial entity to be considered “engaged in the business” and therefore subject to the regime’s requirements.
I see no XO order number in the PDF file either. That'd have to go back to TurtleDude. Here's the web page of the link he posted:
BREAKING: Obama Signs New Gun Control Executive Order. Puts Gunsmiths Out of Business
Just in Time for His Party’s Convention, Obama Administration Releases Latest Executive Gun Control
https://www.nraila.org/articles/201...tration-releases-latest-executive-gun-control
On Friday, July 22, just as members of his party were gathering in Philadelphia to coronate Hillary Clinton as their presidential nominee, the Obama Administration once again released a sweeping gun control measure by executive fiat. This time the bad news came via the U.S. State Department’s Directorate of Defense Trade Controls (DDTC), which is primarily responsible for administering the Arms Export Control Act (AECA) and its implementing rules, the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR). The upshot is that DDTC is labeling commercial gunsmiths as “manufacturers” for performing relatively simple work such as threading a barrel or fabricating a small custom part for an older firearm. Under the AECA, “manufacturers” are required to register with DDTC at significant expense or risk onerous criminal penalties.
i see nothing wrong with that clarifying memorandum
it tells us that manufacturing is what it has always been: applying forces upon a device to cause it to do something which it could not do before that application/process
panties getting placed in a wad over a non-issue
I see no XO order number in the PDF file either. That'd have to go back to TurtleDude. Here's the web page of the link he posted:
BREAKING: Obama Signs New Gun Control Executive Order. Puts Gunsmiths Out of Business
My nephew is a gun smith. He sent me an email about this the other day.
This needs to be challenged in court. Its idiotic and is designed to harass lawful gun owners
BREAKING: Obama Signs New Gun Control Executive Order. Puts Gunsmiths Out of Business
So basically the government is going to have a nice, new confusing way to go after gunsmiths and small, niche part makers. It is likely that the increases expenses and complications of this process will simply force many of these professionals out of business.
Well I guess I better keep the attorney on speed dial.
Hmm. Might be real.
"This time the bad news came"
The link is:
http: / /pmddtc.state.gov/compliance/Applicability%20of%20the%20ITAR%20Registration%20Requirement%20to%20Firearms%20Manufacturers%20(Publish).pdf
Inside address of the PDF.
Disturbing. No idea that there was a federal government "Bureau of Political Military Affairs" under the umbrella of Department of State.
Tell me how a large and complex government is required to ensure liberty for the citizenry?
I was at a gun shop/range yesterday. My nephew used to work there-he now runs a restoration business his late father started and has a gunsmithing business as well. He had called one of the other workers there and told the in-house gunsmith. That is where I was told about this. and that is what I found.
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