Attention Christians in Mississippi and elsewhere: you are fighting the wrong battle. Do not fight to reintroduce prayer in state schools. Fight the concept of state schools themselves. All education should be private. That way those who wish Christianity to be part of the curriculum can send their kids to such schools. Those who don't can send their kids elsewhere.
So you don't think Thomas Jefferson had the right idea about the state paying for education and keeping religion out of schools?
You realize, of course, that the passage you cite is NOT an example of Jesus justifying taxation. What it is an example of is typical liberal context dropping to justify their desire to expand state power.
Attention Christians in Mississippi and elsewhere: you are fighting the wrong battle. Do not fight to reintroduce prayer in state schools. Fight the concept of state schools themselves. All education should be private. That way those who wish Christianity to be part of the curriculum can send their kids to such schools. Those who don't can send their kids elsewhere.
Nov 5, 1996 The Supreme Court refused Monday to reinstate a Mississippi law that required officials to allow student-led prayer in public schools.
The court let stand a lower-court ruling that the 1994 law violated the Constitution because it improperly advanced religion.
According to the state law, school officials were required to allow "invocations, benedictions or nonsectarian, nonproselytizing, student-initiated prayer" at school events, including assemblies and sporting events. A federal appeals court shot down the law, ruling that it violated the Constitution's requirement that church and state be separate.
I wonder what he would have said about mandatory prayers?
What about Muslim prayer time?
The USA was founded by "WASPs".
wasps are protestants the founding fathers were deists and atheists running away from them.....
Can you name a single founding father that claimed to be atheist?
heres a few
sure don't sound all that christian to me?
Do you want me to cherry pick quotes from each and every one of those to "prove" they were Christian? Because surely you know those quotes exist. But that wasn't the question. The question was, can you name a single founding father who claimed to be atheist? As you claimed some were.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#EtymologyAtheism was first used to describe a self-avowed belief in late 18th-century Europe, specifically denoting disbelief in the monotheistic Abrahamic god.In the 20th century, globalization contributed to the expansion of the term to refer to disbelief in all deities, though it remains common in Western society to describe atheism as simply "disbelief in God".
88 Founding Father Quotes That Will Enrage The Religious Right1. “While we are zealously performing the duties of good citizens and soldiers, we certainly ought not to be inattentive to the higher duties of religion. To the distinguished character of Patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian.”
The Writings of Washington, pp. 342-343.
2. “Of all the animosities which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by a difference of sentiments in religion appear to be the most inveterate and distressing, and ought to be deprecated. I was in hopes that the enlightened and liberal policy, which has marked the present age, would at least have reconciled Christians of every denomination so far that we should never again see the religious disputes carried to such a pitch as to endanger the peace of society.”
George Washington — letter to Edward Newenham, October 20, 1792
3. “The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. Nowhere in the Gospels do we find a precept for Creeds, Confessions, Oaths, Doctrines, and whole cartloads of other foolish trumpery that we find in Christianity.”
John Adams
4. “God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the Gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever; That a revolution of the wheel of fortune, a change of situation, is among possible events; that it may become probable by Supernatural influence! The Almighty has no attribute which can take side with us in that event.”
Notes on the State of Virginia, Query XVIII, p. 237
5. “The Citizens of the United States of America have a right to applaud themselves for giving to Mankind examples of an enlarged and liberal policy: a policy worthy of imitation,” wrote Washington. “All possess alike liberty of conscience and immunities of citizenship. It is now no more that toleration is spoken of, as if it was by the indulgence of one class of people that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent natural rights. For happily the Government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection, should demean themselves as good citizens.
George Washington in a letter to Touro Synagogue (1790)
6. “Suppose a nation in some distant Region should take the Bible for their only law Book, and every member should regulate his conduct by the precepts there exhibited! Every member would be obliged in conscience, to temperance, frugality, and industry; to justice, kindness, and charity towards his fellow men; and to piety, love, and reverence toward Almighty God … What a Eutopia, what a Paradise would this region be.”
Diary and Autobiography of John Adams, Vol. III, p. 9.
7. “We should begin by setting conscience free. When all men of all religions shall enjoy equal liberty, property, and an equal chance for honors and power we may expect that improvements will be made in the human character and the state of society.
Founding FatherJohn Adams — letter to Dr. Price, April 8, 1785
nobody called themselves "atheist" until the late 1800's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism#Etymology
but heres 88 quotes proving they were godless deists:lol:
88 Founding Father Quotes That Will Enrage The Religious Right
6. “Suppose a nation in some distant Region should take the Bible for their only law Book, and every member should regulate his conduct by the precepts there exhibited! Every member would be obliged in conscience, to temperance, frugality, and industry; to justice, kindness, and charity towards his fellow men; and to piety, love, and reverence toward Almighty God … What a Eutopia, what a Paradise would this region be.”
Diary and Autobiography of John Adams, Vol. III, p. 9.
heres a few
sure don't sound all that christian to me?
Paleocon explained it in post #7
I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubt. -1 Timothy 2:8
Paleocon explained it in post #7
I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubt. -1 Timothy 2:8
Attention Christians in Mississippi and elsewhere: you are fighting the wrong battle. Do not fight to reintroduce prayer in state schools. Fight the concept of state schools themselves. All education should be private. That way those who wish Christianity to be part of the curriculum can send their kids to such schools. Those who don't can send their kids elsewhere.
A very small few were Deists, the majority were Christians of various denominations, including Protestants.
Can you name a single founding father that claimed to be atheist?
Your link says nothing about mandatory prayers. That would be unconstitutional. Not that libs care about the constitution.
The USA was founded by "WASPs".
A very small few were Deists, the majority were Christians of various denominations, including Protestants.
Can you name a single founding father that claimed to be atheist?
Alright, what is the context of that quote?
I asked you a question.
Of course it's unconstitutional. The "libs" you keep citing must be the people who want to read prayers over the intercom and force schoolchildren to listen to them, right? What is the definition of that invented word again?
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