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Minuteman leader arrested for double homicide

IOW a person who is viewed as an extremist in the overall anti-immigrant thing committed a crime.

Has nothing to do with the Minuteman anymore then The Order has to do with being Protestant.





But on the other hand all bi-racials who commit a crime crime are caused by Obama.

Silly people.
 

She was a 'former' member, pushed out because ostensibly she was 'unstable'. I think that might be a pre-requisite for what's happened, but hey, that's my opinion...... thanks...
 
As the finger pointing and defensive posturing begins--keep in mind a little girl is dead.

She was the only innocent person in that house and she is dead.

Maybe we could acknowledge the tragedy of a child's death long enough for the Left to lower its fingers and the Right to agree that maybe they could help keep any eye on a few folks... something good can come of this.
 
NDNdancer said:
MAD Home

Shawna Forde, one of those arrested, is the Executive Director of MAD.

From the AP:
The Associated Press: Ariz. home invasion suspects tied to border group
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I thanked you because you undermined any leftist attempts to link this with the minuteman or play up the usual anyone who wants the border secured is a racist etc.

.......


Not a minuteman leader..so why does the headline say the person is?
Because they know the majority of people only read headlines....and the reality of what is what in this has no real get up and go after you know it.
 

Well, technically, she IS a minuteman leader - if only because she created a group with "minuteman" as it's first name.
 

Uh...no. I reject your attempt to make the right responsible for all the crazies in America.
 
NDNdancer said:
She was a 'former' member, pushed out because ostensibly she was 'unstable'. I think that might be a pre-requisite for what's happened, but hey, that's my opinion...... thanks...
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To be clear, she was an unstable ostracized member of a minuteman group that was itself no way affiliated with either of the prominent minuteman groups?


Just to make sure we're on the same page.
 
The Mark said:
Well, technically, she IS a minuteman leader - if only because she created a group with "minuteman" as it's first name.
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Thats about as honest as saying im a liberal because I created a group called the "Liberal Death Squad" of which we assassinate liberals.

:roll:
 

She is the executive director of a Minuteman group. How is that not a minuteman leader?
 
NDNdancer said:
She is the executive director of a Minuteman group. How is that not a minuteman leader?
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I just made a minuteman group to assist in getting illegals across the border.

I am now a minute man group leader............

:roll:
 
jallman said:
Uh...no. I reject your attempt to make the right responsible for all the crazies in America.
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Yeah, there are crazies on both sides. Andrew Johnson was right...we should get rid of the lot of them.
 
NDNdancer said:
She is the executive director of a Minuteman group. How is that not a minuteman leader?
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I am the executive director of The Congress of Main St Barcrawlers.

That doesn't make me speaker of the house.
 
NDNdancer said:
She is the executive director of a Minuteman group. How is that not a minuteman leader?
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Notice the letter that I highlighted? You are posting dishonestly. A minuteman group does not refer to THE minuteman group. Was Obama a Weatherman because he talked to Bill Ayers? Of course not. You are making the same silly and hyperpartisan analogy.
 
Caine said:
Thats about as honest as saying im a liberal because I created a group called the "Liberal Death Squad" of which we assassinate liberals.

:roll:
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You compare apples and oranges, at least in my mind.

A "liberal", in my mind, is someone who ascribes to the overall mindset described as liberal.

A Minuteman, in my mind, is someone who is a member of a group describing themselves as "minutemen".

Thus, in my mind, she is a minuteman. Perhaps not one of the members of the far less right-wing minutemen, but still a minuteman member of a group called minutemen.
 
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The Mark said:
Thus, in my mind, she is a minuteman. Perhaps not one of the members of the far less right-wing minutemen, but still a minuteman.
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So by your logic the Knight of Columbus and the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan would be all affiliated because they share the word "knights" in their titles.
 
The silenced majority said:
So by your logic the Knight of Columbus and the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan would be all affiliated because they share the word "knights" in their titles.
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I realized that such a conclusion could be reached from my un-edited post.

Thus, I edited it to say this:

Thus, in my mind, she is a minuteman. Perhaps not one of the members of the far less right-wing minutemen, but still a minuteman member of a group called minutemen.
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And in answer to your question, no, that is not what I meant.

Edit: As pervious posts in this thread authored by myself would indicate.
 
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Thus, in my mind, she is a minuteman. Perhaps not one of the members of the far less right-wing minutemen, but still a minuteman member of a group called minutemen.
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Yes, cheap and sleazy smears of any sort are acceptable to many, there's no doubt. Unfortunately, such little 'misdirections' eventually backfire and have consequences far worse than intended by those who think they have a special dispensation to mislead and slander groups they don't like, usually for shallow reasons.

See backlash against Carrie Prejean for minor examples; it isn't going to go well for the sleazebags howling for her blood for daring to have a opinion a bunch of trash doesn't like.
 
The crazies/sociapaths are in the minority no matter where they go.. They are so "out there" that most groups don't want them, but often enough, the groups don't know right away how bad the crazies are.
To label these nuts as right wingers, or left wingers, is wrong. They don't represent ANY group, they are crazies who just attach themselves to a group.
 

Uhh...Yes, I agree?
 
The "Minutemen" claim no connection to her group, yet have put her words of condolence on their site. They also call her organization an "independent patriot organization".


Welcome to Jim Gilchrist's Minuteman Project

I love how they distance themselves from the patriots.....
 
Okay gentlemen, which is it, patriots or loons?......
 
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