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Whew. I'm glad you don't counter my "ridiculous absolutism" with hyperbole of your own.

Dodged that bullet.

Demonstrating how ridiculous you were being by doing it right back to you. I see I was successful.
 
Demonstrating how ridiculous you were being by doing it right back to you. I see I was successful.

Oh, so you're saying that you and other über-lefties don't favor unchecked state power. Funny.
 

Laws were created to address the fact that people suck. It's what the social contract is all about, so to dismiss anti-racist laws on the basis that life is unfair or that people suck has missed out on the last 6000+ years of history.
 
Oh, so you're saying that you and other über-lefties don't favor unchecked state power. Funny.

As the spokesperson for uber-lefties everywhere we do not favor unchecked state power. I don't know if you've noticed but we're not exactly dancing in the streets at the advent of the government spying on its citizens, the war on drugs or the numerous hits on civil liberties in the name of security.
 
Laws were created to address the fact that people suck. It's what the social contract is all about, so to dismiss anti-racist laws on the basis that life is unfair or that people suck has missed out on the last 6000+ years of history.

Know what happens when you attempt to force people that suck into not sucking against their will? They suck even more - but now with a just voice.

It's situations like this where I keep reiterating Voltaire. I don't agree with most of these assholes, but I'll defend their right to be assholes. There is no justifiable censorship.

Oh and what's this 6000+ stuff. The Earth is only 6000 years old. *snicker*


They favor the power the same was as über-righties do, but with concentrations in different areas. You can't have a command economy without command in very specific social arenas.
 
Know what happens when you attempt to force people that suck into not sucking against their will? They suck even more - but now with a just voice.

Oh yeah, that must be why they got rid of laws -- they were just making people worse.

It's situations like this where I keep reiterating Voltaire. I don't agree with most of these assholes, but I'll defend their right to be assholes. There is no justifiable censorship.

It's all very well until their asshole behavior ends up infringing on the rights of others. Anyway, I've already agreed that the rules against business discrimination are a gray area.

Oh and what's this 6000+ stuff. The Earth is only 6000 years old. *snicker*

You must not be hanging out in the right subforums. The earth is clearly 4000 years old.

They favor the power the same was as über-righties do, but with concentrations in different areas. You can't have a command economy without command in very specific social arenas.

You think you're outside of the spectrum by not putting yourself in with uber-rightie and uber-leftie, but you're really right smack on it. Libertarianism in your sense is very much an extreme position, and it allows the strong to prey on the weak. Again, the reason for that whole social contract thingie.
 
Oh yeah, that must be why they got rid of laws -- they were just making people worse.

They are making people worse. They're giving some people a voice that's really unnecessary when it comes to governmental tyranny. It's like the government forcing an ice age instead of letting the dinosaurs die off naturally.

It's all very well until their asshole behavior ends up infringing on the rights of others. Anyway, I've already agreed that the rules against business discrimination are a gray area.

But there's no rights there. Now if someone discriminated and it was a public sector location (or even an establishment receiving government subsidies) I'd put up a huge stop sign.

You must not be hanging out in the right subforums. The earth is clearly 4000 years old.

I suck at creationism.


I don't think it's quite as extreme. I'm no anarchist. I just want the government only to exist to curb extreme/fringe behavior. Someone saying "nigger get out" or "beat it, honky" doesn't make either leg of my spectrum. Governmental power is your typical genie in a bottle - you let her out, and she ain't wantin' to go back in. It seems like everyone today wants Washington to solve their problems instead of doing it themselves within the confines of minimal, specific, and justifiable law. Government is no invisible hand; it's a very visible fist.
 
Oh, so you're saying that you and other über-lefties don't favor unchecked state power. Funny.

So you're saying you don't favor dissolution of th United States. Funny.
 
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