They were useful idiots. The real criminals were the politicians who sold our grandchildren into a life of slavery, or serfdom to the state, if you prefer, in order to buy the votes to keep themselves in office. Marxism has always had enormous appeal. Who wouldn't want to get something for noting (or very little)?
the reason for this has very little to do with teacher pay and has everything to do with redundant cost.
I will state that I don't believe pay is the major reason for the low retention rate.
how teachers are treated by students and administration have a greater impact than pay alone
Personally I prefer Detroit's choice to Milwaukee's
Way to help unemployment GOP teabaggers.
They are not what's caused our financial problems
If our debt situation gets bad enough they will stop giving tax breaks to people just because they are rich
social security and medicare BY THEMSELVES added an EXTRA three point four trillion dollars of debt last year ALONE
and the GOP plan of making American's even dumber is going strong.. hey soon people will actually believe that Jesus rode dinos, the world is flat and the sun revolves around the Earth....
Cutting education is the single dumbest thing any government can do. Children are the future and having a massive uneducated population has never helped any nation.. unless of course you want to be like India and China...
and the GOP plan of making American's even dumber is going strong.. hey soon people will actually believe that Jesus rode dinos, the world is flat and the sun revolves around the Earth....
Cutting education is the single dumbest thing any government can do. Children are the future and having a massive uneducated population has never helped any nation.. unless of course you want to be like India and China...
SS has taken in more money than its obligations
The answer to both is to upgrade to a single payer system
The far right would like to even the playing field by dumbing down future voters
social security accounted ONE POINT FOUR TRILLION dollars of ADDITIONAL unfunded liability in the year two thousand ten ALONE
as if the far right (LOL!) is responsible for the DETROIT PUBLIC SCHOOLS
that is the amount that has been taken from SS to provide the tax cuts for the rich
The federal government's financial condition deteriorated rapidly last year, far beyond the $1.5 trillion in new debt taken on to finance the budget deficit, a USA TODAY analysis shows.
The government added $5.3 trillion in new financial obligations in 2010, largely for retirement programs such as Medicare and Social Security.
Social Security added $1.4 trillion in obligations, partly reflecting longer life expectancies.
It is the far-right that created the recession that resulted in the state's lack of revenues.
Wikipedia is not a reliable source. I did read about him and I don't see why he thinks he's an expert because he's not.
you have someone better Qualified to dispute what he says ?
There are many differing opinions out there. I don't think a degree in political science qualifies someone to be an expert in education. The conclusions he draws from a few facts do not match my experience in education. His conclusions about how much time teachers spend teaching seems especially off, but maybe that is true some places. All we can do is read what people say, look at their qualifications, examine potential bias, and form an opinion. My opinion is that he is wrong.
As I've said before, my concerns are less with pay and more with how teachers are treated. I , and I would guess most teachers, knew that we'd never get rich teaching. Would I like to make more and do I think I deserve more? Of course, who doesn't. What is more important to me is that teachers stop being the target for everyone, especially legislatures, and stop being the first place cuts are made. I understand that in these economic times we all have to sacrifice and that I am lucky to have a job. But, for a personal example, I took a $5000 pay cut last year and I have to decide whether to continue to do the work with students that money was paying for or to stop doing the work for free. How is that situation good for the students?
I thought this was interesting. Our problems and concerns are not new.
Education: Underpaid Teachers - TIME
It's not good for the students … and it's not good for you … I apologize for the crudeness of some of my comments towards you I'm use to dealing with boo ….
My feeling are we have some serious problems with our educational system. I'm just tire of politicians from each side .. not looking to find the problems and thinking that if we just throw more money at it .. everything will fix its self ..
I have no problem with teachers, I do have a problem with the unions they belong to, because in my opinion they are part of the problem. They look out for the unions first .. the teachers second, and the students last.
The government isn't much better .. they have given into union demands time and time again .. using the benefits to push the problem with budgets down the road .. until quite frankly it has become unsustainable..... the time of reckoning now has arrived ... cuts have to be made … and not surprisingly those that it effects thinks they are wrong .. Not much is different on the federal level, everyone agree we must cut spending, but no one wants those cuts that effects them.
What is being debated here lately … is who to blame .. (thats wrong to begin with) but the simple fact is, the person making those cuts is no more or less to blame .. then the people who actually take those cuts and implement them. In the case of Wisconsin one district decided to lay off teaches .. and they get the public forum pointing the finger at Walker … while the 100's of other districts seem to manage those cuts without layoffs … get no ink. Why is that ? IMO it's purely political ..
Just as a side note .. you do realize that the article you are referring to was posted in 1949 don't you ?
Thanks for your post. I agree with much of what you say. I'm not a huge fan of the NEA but teachers do need someone advocating for them. I like the state organization I am in. They do political work advocating for teachers and students but not collective bargaining. We pay dues, but not nearly as much as NEA dues. All of the teachers I know are in it and not in a union.
Yes, I know the article is from 1949. I was surprised that it came up, but that is why I thought it was interesting. If you didn't see the date and the salaries weren't so low, it could have been written today.
Again, then fight for something that address that. If you were, if Walker was, you would find far less objection from me. But less teachers means more students in a classroom. It can't be otherwise. Cutting just to cut is no more wise than spending just to spend.
I don't know if you noticed but they did also close nine schools. That accounts for some of the teachers. I didn't see any statistics on enrollment but that has an affect on how many teachers you need. Curriculum changes could mean a need for less teachers and probably other factors we are not considering. It could be possible that they just didn't need those teachers.
It is the far-right that created the recession that resulted in the state's lack of revenues.
By privatizing education. Only then will each teacher be paid based on on how much money that teacher brings in. Competition and the free market are the forces needed.How do we as a society expect to get the best teachers if we start them off on barely above poverty pay?
Granted.I don't know about you but most of America has paid into SS and Medicare their whole lives.
Wrong. And extra-constitutional. We need to change this for future recipients.They are not what's caused our financial problems,
Democrat Talking Point. Noted.it is our antiquated health care system,
Democrat Talking Point. Noted.all the unfunded wars and imperialistic size military spending that almost equals the rest of the world COMBINED,
Democrat Talking Point. Noted.at the same time we cut taxes for people just because they happen to be rich.
Perhaps we ought to stop all the spending for extra-constitutional purposes.If our debt situation gets bad enough they will stop giving tax breaks to people just because they are rich and stop all the unfunded wars.
By privatizing education. Only then will each teacher be paid based on on how much money that teacher brings in. Competition and the free market are the forces needed.
Not so fast my Marxist comrade. The real right answer is to get the government completely out of health care.The health care costs that have caused both Medicare and private insurance to become unaffordable is the result of our antiquated health care system. The answer to both is to upgrade to a single payer system as the rest of the first world nations have done.
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