Michigan Senate, House spar in court over nine bills that never made it to Whitmer's desk

[SuperDS77]

Interesting court battle in MI between the Republican controlled House and the Democrat controlled senate.

The gist of it is that the democrats (house and senate) passed nine (9) bills in the previous lame-duck session, that for some reason were not sent to the Governor in a timely manner before the current session began 1/8/2025.

The current republican controlled house has decided, at least temporarily, to not send these bills to the governor.

Frankly, I don't see how the democrats have a case here. One legislature cannot bind another, and what few seem to be asking is WHY they did not send these bills to the governor immediately upon passage.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2025/02/24/michigan-senate-house-lawsuit-bills-lame-duck-session-whitmer-museum-tax-prison-guard-pension/79828986007/

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Detroit — A state judge will rule in the coming days on a dispute between the Republican-controlled Michigan House and Democrat-led Senate over the fate of nine bills that the last Legislature failed to send to Gov. Gretchen Whitmer before a new raft of lawmakers was sworn in on Jan. 8.

Court of Claims Judge Sima Patel on Monday heard arguments about whether the state Constitution requires House Speaker Matt Hall, R-Richland Township, to finish the work of the last Democratic-led Legislature in presenting the bills to the governor and, if so, whether there is any sort of deadline by when he must do so."

"Attorneys for the House argued the current chamber is not bound by the action or inaction of the past legislative body and, even if it were, there is no time frame by which the Legislature must present bills to the governor."

 

[Mr Person]

<> Frankly, I don't see how the democrats have a case here. One legislature cannot bind another, and what few seem to be asking is WHY they did not send these bills to the governor immediately upon passage. <>

Get real.

The full extent of your analysis is that Republicans are doing something Democrats don't like and therefore you like it.

 

[SuperDS77]

Get real.

The full extent of your analysis is that Republicans are doing something Democrats don't like and therefore you like it.

Thanks Carnac.

Get lost.

 

[Bok Tuklo]

Smash the so-called "norms," use whatever raw power available, or not clearly prohibited, exploit ambiguity, and treat governing as a zero-sum game against a hated enemy.

Just more Republican destruction of our republic.

 

[SuperDS77]

Smash the so-called "norms," use whatever raw power available, or not clearly prohibited, exploit ambiguity, and treat governing as a zero-sum game against a hated enemy.

Just more Republican destruction of our republic.

Since when is it a "norm" for the previous legislature to bind the next one?

Additionally, where is the condemnation of the democrats who passed these bills in the lame-duck session for not getting these to the governors desk in a timely fashion.

To put it succinctly, they effed up here. Too bad. It was all trash anyways.

 

[noonereal]

Smash the so-called "norms," use whatever raw power available, or not clearly prohibited, exploit ambiguity, and treat governing as a zero-sum game against a hated enemy.

Just more Republican destruction of our republic.

The Trump led GOP.

Not how our country was designed to work or ever has.

 

[SuperDS77]

The Trump led GOP.

Not how our country was designed to work or ever has.

Our country was not designed to have previous legislatures bind the current one.

You surely don't think the democrats would have done anything different in this circumstance, do you? I don't. Nor should they have.

As stated previously the democrats in the MI legislature have no one to blame but themselves. They should have sent this bills to the governor immediately. I, and others, are still at a loss as to why this did not happen after trying to push all of this stuff through in a lame-duck session.

As someone famous once said "elections have consequences". Eat it Michigan democrats!

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

Interesting court battle in MI between the Republican controlled House and the Democrat controlled senate.

The gist of it is that the democrats (house and senate) passed nine (9) bills in the previous lame-duck session, that for some reason were not sent to the Governor in a timely manner before the current session began 1/8/2025.

The current republican controlled house has decided, at least temporarily, to not send these bills to the governor.

Frankly, I don't see how the democrats have a case here. One legislature cannot bind another, and what few seem to be asking is WHY they did not send these bills to the governor immediately upon passage.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2025/02/24/michigan-senate-house-lawsuit-bills-lame-duck-session-whitmer-museum-tax-prison-guard-pension/79828986007/

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Detroit — A state judge will rule in the coming days on a dispute between the Republican-controlled Michigan House and Democrat-led Senate over the fate of nine bills that the last Legislature failed to send to Gov. Gretchen Whitmer before a new raft of lawmakers was sworn in on Jan. 8.

Court of Claims Judge Sima Patel on Monday heard arguments about whether the state Constitution requires House Speaker Matt Hall, R-Richland Township, to finish the work of the last Democratic-led Legislature in presenting the bills to the governor and, if so, whether there is any sort of deadline by when he must do so."

"Attorneys for the House argued the current chamber is not bound by the action or inaction of the past legislative body and, even if it were, there is no time frame by which the Legislature must present bills to the governor."

I'd just LOVE to have Governor Whitmer sitting on MY desk!

Hubba Hubba!!