Michael Morell: Foreign Governments have Hillary's Email.....

[MMC]

Former Deputy CIA Director Michael Morell said that he believes some foreign intelligence agencies possess the contents of Hillary Clinton’s private email server.

“I think that foreign intelligence services, the good ones, have everything on any unclassified network that the government uses,” Morell said Friday in an interview on the Hugh Hewitt Show.

“I don’t think that was a very good judgment,” he added of Clinton’s decision to use the private server for official State Department business. “I don’t know who gave her that advice, but it was not good advice.”.....snip~

Read more: Hillary Clinton emails: Former CIA head says foreign governments have access - POLITICO



This was brought out before and the naysayers tried to play it off as a conspiracy theory. Morrell worked for who, again? That's Right.....BO and his Team. His new book also has some passages about Benghazi as to what took place before and after.

Right now, the CIA, FBI, and others know Hillary gave up a breach to US National Security and placed BO at Risk. There is no reason to allow Hillary and the Democrats any excuses. This is a major screw up. What say ye?

 

[MMC]

Yeah I know, its a blow to Hillary and her Team, sycophants, followers, and of course those Democrats.....kind of hard to get around now with Politico bringing it out into the open.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Former Deputy CIA Director Michael Morell said that he believes some foreign intelligence agencies possess the contents of Hillary Clinton’s private email server.

“I think that foreign intelligence services, the good ones, have everything on any unclassified network that the government uses,” Morell said Friday in an interview on the Hugh Hewitt Show.
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Right now, the CIA, FBI, and others know Hillary gave up a breach to US National Security and placed BO at Risk. There is no reason to allow Hillary and the Democrats any excuses. This is a major screw up. What say ye?

Since the assessment you are citing says that "everything on any unclassified network that the government uses" as been compromised, are you saying that you would prefer that her e-mails fell into the hands of foreign agents by way of the State Departments servers instead of her own servers?

Are you also disappointed that her e-mail are now available via the Congressional record?

 

[humbolt]

Yeah I know, its a blow to Hillary and her Team, sycophants, followers, and of course those Democrats.....kind of hard to get around now with Politico bringing it out into the open.

You know this has been mentioned from the start as a likely problem. Now it appears to be more than likely. At the start of this I suggested that China would likely have them. They could be for sale soon to foreign donors to the Clinton Foundation.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

You know this has been mentioned from the start as a likely problem. Now it appears to be more than likely. At the start of this I suggested that China would likely have them. They could be for sale soon to foreign donors to the Clinton Foundation.

I am not sure that her e-mails would have been more secure at the State Department's servers.
I read upthread that "everything on any unclassified network that the government uses" has been compromised.

In addition:

State Department Toughens Up Computer Network Against Cyber Threats

The latest Federal Information Security Management report reveals the State Department has one of the lowest cybersecurity assessment scores among all federal agencies, sharing the dishonor with the Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Housing and Urban Development.
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We need more information before we can determine that Clinton's e-mail security was any worse off than the alternative at the State Department.

 

[MMC]

Since the assessment you are citing says that "everything on any unclassified network that the government uses" as been compromised, are you saying that you would prefer that her e-mails fell into the hands of foreign agents by way of the State Departments servers instead of her own servers?

Are you also disappointed that her e-mail are now available via the Congressional record?

He also cited anything on any Public Government server. Especially if they are good.

But now as to your jumping from point A and B to an X trying to mark a spot. That just doesn't play out at all on, do I prefer that her emails fall into Foreign Governments hands. Obviously not.....but now that it is known to be out there. That does leave a problem that exists. One caused by none other than Hillary and her ownself. As well as her Team that is trying to cover up.

Which means breaches taking place now must be looked upon as where the source came from. The Hackers signatures will be known. So guess who that leaves. Moreover we already know the WH was hacked via State Dept computers. Unlike the first time where they got into the WH.

Do you have validation that ALL her emails are now available via Congressional Record? As Gowdy seems to think otherwise.

 

[Grant]

I am not sure that her e-mails would have been more secure at the State Department's servers.
I read upthread that "everything on any unclassified network that the government uses" has been compromised.

In addition:

State Department Toughens Up Computer Network Against Cyber Threats

The latest Federal Information Security Management report reveals the State Department has one of the lowest cybersecurity assessment scores among all federal agencies, sharing the dishonor with the Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Housing and Urban Development.
​

We need more information before we can determine that Clinton's e-mail security was any worse off than the alternative at the State Department.

The difference is that the government is responsible for their Internet security while private servers, as in H.Clinton's, are not. To assume control over official government business on her own private server, and understanding the possible risks involved, is definitely putting the interests of herself over the security of her position and her government. Only the blindly partisan, on either side, would agree that every government official should have their own personal Internet server.

 

[MMC]

You know this has been mentioned from the start as a likely problem. Now it appears to be more than likely. At the start of this I suggested that China would likely have them. They could be for sale soon to foreign donors to the Clinton Foundation.

Well, lets not forget that the Romanian Hacker already got into Blumenthal's Emails and then followed them to Hillary. Then even admitted to setting up shop in her domain. Its not whether.....IF she was breached. Its what they got.

Another point was Hillary coming out and saying there was no breach. Now that just isn't looking like it is the case.

 

[humbolt]

I am not sure that her e-mails would have been more secure at the State Department's servers.
I read upthread that "everything on any unclassified network that the government uses" has been compromised.

In addition:

State Department Toughens Up Computer Network Against Cyber Threats

The latest Federal Information Security Management report reveals the State Department has one of the lowest cybersecurity assessment scores among all federal agencies, sharing the dishonor with the Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Housing and Urban Development.
​

We need more information before we can determine that Clinton's e-mail security was any worse off than the alternative at the State Department.

It's already out. Clinton operated her server for months without any encryption at all. Regardless of the state of security of the State Department systems, they were arguably far more secure than Clinton's own, which had nothing at all to protect it. Her use of a private server is more widely known within the administration than has been publicly stated, obviously. She did get encryption after some months. I haven't read anywhere of exactly what level of encryption she employed, how it was backed up, or exactly how the system was monitored. I expect that will be difficult information to come by with anything less than a subpeona.

 

[humbolt]

The difference is that the government is responsible for their Internet security while private servers, as in H.Clinton's, are not. To assume control over official government business on her own private server, and understanding the possible risks involved, is definitely putting the interests of herself over the security of her position and her government. Only the blindly partisan, on either side, would agree that every government official should have their own personal Internet server.

Well, there is this: For 3 months Hillary Clinton

Hillary was willing to put a lot at risk to avoid Congressional inquiry and FOIA.

 

[MMC]

I am not sure that her e-mails would have been more secure at the State Department's servers.
I read upthread that "everything on any unclassified network that the government uses" has been compromised.

In addition:

State Department Toughens Up Computer Network Against Cyber Threats

The latest Federal Information Security Management report reveals the State Department has one of the lowest cybersecurity assessment scores among all federal agencies, sharing the dishonor with the Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Housing and Urban Development.
​

We need more information before we can determine that Clinton's e-mail security was any worse off than the alternative at the State Department.

Yeah, I am sure they had to come up with some better security. But it is a coincidence that Right after Hillary started at State. All that phishing activity increased.



The hackers, who also got into the State Department's unclassified system, obtained access to the email archives of people inside the White House, and perhaps some outside, with whom Obama regularly communicated, the Times said. It was from those accounts that they reached emails that the president had sent and received, according to the officials.

"But officials have conceded that the unclassified system routinely contains much information that is considered highly sensitive: schedules, email exchanges with ambassadors and diplomats, discussions of pending personnel moves and legislation, and, inevitably, some debate about policy," the Times reported.

"It's the Russian angle to this that's particularly worrisome," a senior official was quoted as saying.....snip~


Russian hackers read Obama emails: report

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Regardless of the state of security of the State Department systems, they were arguably far more secure than Clinton's own...

Regardless of the state of security of the State Department systems, they were arguably far more secure than Clinton's own?
If you start with the premise that there's no possible configuration of State's e-mail system which would be as bad or worse than Clinton's server, you have pretty much have to reach the conclusion that Clinton's e-mail was less secure than State's. ; )

The difference is that the government is responsible for their Internet security while private servers, as in H.Clinton's, are not. To assume control over official government business on her own private server, and understanding the possible risks involved, is definitely putting the interests of herself over the security of her position and her government. Only the blindly partisan, on either side, would agree that every government official should have their own personal Internet server.

Whether or not this was a wise idea is a different issue than whether or not it was a de facto security risk.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

But it is a coincidence that Right after Hillary started at State. All that phishing activity increased.

Most likely your statement is correct.

Here is some data. Feel free to make a case.

APWG Reports | APWG

 

[humbolt]

Regardless of the state of security of the State Department systems, they were arguably far more secure than Clinton's own?
If you start with the premise that there's no possible configuration of State's e-mail system which would be as bad or worse than Clinton's server, you have pretty much have to reach the conclusion that Clinton's e-mail was less secure than State's. ; )

Arguably, even at insufficient levels, some protection at the State Department was superior to no protection on Hillary's private system. Understand, the Secretary of State would be a target for hackers no matter how communication is handled. I can tell you that there are some very secure communications at the State Department. Invulnerable? Probably not - nothing is. They are a pain to use sometimes, or as Hillary put it, "inconvenient".

 

[MMC]

Most likely your statement is correct.

Here is some data. Feel free to make a case.

APWG Reports | APWG

Well, really I cant take All the credit. :lol:

What case is there to make?



Hillary’s Secret Email Was a Cyberspy’s Dream Weapon.....

When a notorious online break-in artist got a hold of the Secretary of State’s now-infamous email address, he gave himself the power to use it to target the global elite. The private email address for Hillary Clinton, which became the talk of Washington this week and created her first major speed bump on her road to the White House, has actually been freely available on the Internet for a year, thanks to a colorful Romanian hacker known as Guccifer.

On March 14, 2013, Guccifer—his real name is Marcel-Lehel Lazar—broke into the AOL account of Sidney Blumenthal, a journalist, former White House aide to Bill Clinton, and personal confidante of Hillary Clinton. Lazar crowed about his exploits to journalists, disclosing a set of memos Blumenthal had written to Clinton in 2012, as well as the personal email address and domain she’s now known to have used exclusively for her personal and official correspondence. Few journalists noticed that at the time, and it caused no ruckus in Washington. But the fact that Clinton’s private email was now public means she was not just putting her own information at risk, but potentially those in the circle of people who knew her private address.

Her email account was the ultimate hacker’s lure. It’s a common technique to impersonate a trusted source via email, in order to persuade a recipient to download spyware hidden inside seemingly innocuous attachments. Indeed, Clinton’s own staff had been targeted with such highly targeted “spear phishing” emails as early as 2009, the year she took office. And according to U.S. authorities, Lazar, who’s now serving a seven-year prison sentence in Romania and is accused of hacking the accounts of other Washington notables like Colin Powell, did commandeer other people’s email accounts . Then he used them to send messages exposing the private correspondence of his other victims. Before Lazar exposed the email domain, it would have been known to people with whom Clinton was trading emails, as well as to a tight inner circle lucky enough to be given @clintonemail.com accounts. Those included Clinton’s daughter, Chelsea, and aide Huma Abedin, whom the former secretary treats like family. Maybe Clinton and her staff thought the relative anonymity of her email domain would have given her a measure of security. It’s hard to say, since they and State Department officials have consistently refused to answer journalists questions about what security measures Clinton took to protect her “homebrew” email system......snip~


Hillary

 

[MMC]

Well, there is this: For 3 months Hillary Clinton

Hillary was willing to put a lot at risk to avoid Congressional inquiry and FOIA.

And now a Judge just gave State until Sept to fulfill Citizens United's FOIAs. Then the AP wants all of Hillary's and Huma Abedin's emails and records of their Contact with Muhammed Morsi's wife.

 

[humbolt]

And now a Judge just gave State until Sept to fulfill Citizens United's FOIAs. Then the AP wants all of Hillary's and Huma Abedin's emails and records of their Contact with Muhammed Morsi's wife.

Yeah, and that's good news. You'd think at this point that those on the left would begin to understand, given all the delays by Clinton and the administration, why this stuff remains open after all this time. Surely the Clinton campaign understands this problem, so there must be some fire somewhere behind all that smoke or they'd have hastened it's end.

 

[MMC]

The difference is that the government is responsible for their Internet security while private servers, as in H.Clinton's, are not. To assume control over official government business on her own private server, and understanding the possible risks involved, is definitely putting the interests of herself over the security of her position and her government. Only the blindly partisan, on either side, would agree that every government official should have their own personal Internet server.

Heya G. :2wave: Check out the Interview with Hewitt. His Book is going to open some eyes.


Former CIA Deputy Director Mike Morell on "The Great War Of Our Time" « The Hugh Hewitt Show

 

[MMC]

Yeah, and that's good news. You'd think at this point that those on the left would begin to understand, given all the delays by Clinton and the administration, why this stuff remains open after all this time. Surely the Clinton campaign understand this problem, so there must be some fire somewhere behind all that smoke or they'd have hastened it's end.

Not even Media Matters, Brock, CNN, Georgie Boy nor Bill Clinton himself.....is going to be able to get her out of this jam.

Once other people start being affected.....someone is going to start talking about, time for Hillary to come, undone. Can't have her running around and believing she is above the law.

But you are correct. It all falls on Hillary and BO. All their delays with the other committees only delayed this matter. Plus its Time for Hillary to suffer the repercussions of that responsibility she took.

 

[humbolt]

Not even Media Matters, Brock, CNN, Georgie Boy nor Bill Clinton himself.....is going to be able to get her out of this jam.

Once other people start being affected.....someone is going to start talking about, time for Hillary to come, undone. Can't have her running around and believing she is above the law.

But you are correct. It all falls on Hillary and BO. All their delays with the other committees only delayed this matter. Plus its Time for Hillary to suffer the repercussions of that responsibility she took.

If it comes down to it, Obama will cut Hillary off without a thought. Their hope is to continue to drag this out as long as possible, but the evidence and the people implicated is a growing list. Sooner or later someone is going to want to avoid implication in events over which they had no control. There a some people involved that are young enough and not wealthy enough to just walk away regardless of the consequences. They haven't reached such a status that they can get the media to play their tune.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Arguably, even at insufficient levels, some protection at the State Department was superior to no protection on Hillary's private system.

If one had the relevant information, one could argue that.

 

[humbolt]

If one had the relevant information, one could argue that.

I did at one time, but I've been away long enough that I can't claim to have such information anymore. However, the same basic protocol for the handling of classified and even sensitive information is in place. How strictly that is adhered to is a question mark that the current administration can answer, but surely won't, which is understandable. That information will likely come from sources we'd rather not have it.

 

[Grant]

Yeah, I am sure they had to come up with some better security. But it is a coincidence that Right after Hillary started at State. All that phishing activity increased.



The hackers, who also got into the State Department's unclassified system, obtained access to the email archives of people inside the White House, and perhaps some outside, with whom Obama regularly communicated, the Times said. It was from those accounts that they reached emails that the president had sent and received, according to the officials.

"But officials have conceded that the unclassified system routinely contains much information that is considered highly sensitive: schedules, email exchanges with ambassadors and diplomats, discussions of pending personnel moves and legislation, and, inevitably, some debate about policy," the Times reported.

"It's the Russian angle to this that's particularly worrisome," a senior official was quoted as saying.....snip~


Russian hackers read Obama emails: report

More on the Russian angles.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ndation-donations-uranium-investors.html?_r=0

Wonder what Obama meant here? Barack Obama microphone gaffe: 'I'll have more flexibility after election' - Telegraph

 

[MMC]

More on the Russian angles.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ndation-donations-uranium-investors.html?_r=0

Wonder what Obama meant here? Barack Obama microphone gaffe: 'I'll have more flexibility after election' - Telegraph

Mornin G. :2wave: Like BO's man, Morell stated. If the Foreign Governments hackers are that good. Then Hillary has no out.

 

[Grant]

Mornin G. :2wave: Like BO's man, Morell stated. If the Foreign Governments hackers are that good. Then Hillary has no out.

If she had folowed protocol and used the government server then she could always blame them for any leaks. Now it is all her responsibility, as have been the other screw-ups, but that won't matter to the LIV's.