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Mexican Navy training ship carrying more than 200 people strikes underside of Brooklyn Bridge

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Navy training shop Chuatemoc was on a tour of different countries.
This is the second ship I have heard of that strikes a pier after losing power.
What if anything can be done to keep this from happening?
Tariffs on all foreign ships obviously. That would be a great sketch of an outline of a suggestion of a draft of a plan. Luckily the USA has a stable genius already in place.
 

Navy training shop Chuatemoc was on a tour of different countries.
This is the second ship I have heard of that strikes a pier after losing power.
What if anything can be done to keep this from happening?


The ship was in the current when it lost power.

There is no way on earth to prevent human or machinery failure....................... no matter how well you train or how much money you throw at the problem.

It's a fact of life.
 
Two crew members killed.

 
All ships passing inland hazard points should have a tug escort, two or more tugs that can control the ship if problems arise.
 
What pier strike? All I see is masts hitting the bridge deck.

For one, maybe don't take a ship within a couple miles of any bridge it can't clear under.
And why does a navy have a training ship with sails. Plan on waging war in the 1600s?
 
What pier strike? All I see is masts hitting the bridge deck.

For one, maybe don't take a ship within a couple miles of any bridge it can't clear under.
And why does a navy have a training ship with sails. Plan on waging war in the 1600s?
Many of the world’s navies maintain a sailing vessel as a training platform. It’s a throwback to the days of sail. Most of those also have engines. The ship in the video/still has the sails furled.
 
Maybe one of those “you must be this short to pass under” gauges?
Here’s another angle:

 
Many of the world’s navies maintain a sailing vessel as a training platform. It’s a throwback to the days of sail. Most of those also have engines. The ship in the video/still has the sails furled.
I can see it as paying homage to naval roots, but seems totally unnecessary.
Though i guess you do save fuel on open water travel.

But if you are actually training sailors on sailing in a modern navy; seems time better spend on other drills.
 
I can see it as paying homage to naval roots, but seems totally unnecessary.
Though i guess you do save fuel on open water travel.

But if you are actually training sailors on sailing in a modern navy; seems time better spend on other drills.
It is about discipline and training. That is why recruits in basic march around in formation.
 
I can see it as paying homage to naval roots, but seems totally unnecessary.
Though i guess you do save fuel on open water travel.

But if you are actually training sailors on sailing in a modern navy; seems time better spend on other drills.
Think of it as teaching your son to shave with a blade before electric or teaching him to drive a manual before the automatic.

They had may crew in the rigging, you’d think that some one would do a little “Kentucky Windage” and tell the officer of the deck that we aren’t going to fit?

 
Maybe one of those “you must be this short to pass under” gauges?
Here’s another angle:


I think they would have cleared other than that gantry under the bridge.
 
What pier strike? All I see is masts hitting the bridge deck.

For one, maybe don't take a ship within a couple miles of any bridge it can't clear under.
And why does a navy have a training ship with sails. Plan on waging war in the 1600s?
Many navies continue traditions no longer relevant to today's needs. Including this from the Royal Navy; the finest navy in the world. Be amazed.

 
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Many navies continue traditions no longer relevant to today's needs. Including this from the Royal Navy; the finest navy in the world:


:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Thanks for the morning belly laugh. The Royal Navy hasn’t been relevant since the days of Alfred Thayer Mahan.
 
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Thanks for the morning belly laugh. The Royal Navy hasn’t been relevant since the days of Alfred Thayer Mahan.
It was the Royal Navy which sailed halfway around the world in 1982 to throw the Argentine invaders off our Falkland Islands. The Royal Navy was the most powerful in the world in 1914, and saved America's arse more than once in WW2. It was the Royal Navy which transported Allied troops to Normandy on D-Day, including your soldiers. It was the Royal Navy which disposed of Hitler's most powerful battleship, the Bismarck. Royal Navy nuclear submarines will always be relevant. Keep your Yank ignorance and misplaced arrogance to yourself mate.

 
It was the Royal Navy which sailed halfway around the world in 1982 to throw the Argentine invaders off our Falkland Islands. The Royal Navy was the most powerful in the world in 1914, and saved America's arse more than once in WW2. It was the Royal Navy which transported Allied troops to Normandy on D-Day, including your soldiers. It was the Royal Navy which disposed of Hitler's most powerful battleship, the Bismarck. Royal Navy nuclear submarines will always be relevant. Keep your Yank ignorance and misplaced arrogance to yourself mate.

It was the Royal Navy which sailed halfway around the world in 1982 to throw the Argentine invaders off our Falkland Islands. The Royal Navy was the most powerful in the world in 1914, and saved America's arse more than once in WW2. It was the Royal Navy which transported Allied troops to Normandy on D-Day, including your soldiers. It was the Royal Navy which disposed of Hitler's most powerful battleship, the Bismarck. Royal Navy nuclear submarines will always be relevant. Keep your Yank ignorance and misplaced arrogance to yourself mate.

As the only DPer who has served in the RN - 1952 to 66 - I thank for this post.
 
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