Anyone can say they know a sh*tload of couples together for decades. That in no way still negates the facts about the risks involved with getting involved with modern American women. Now don't you fool yourself.
Agreed....you can easily *see* guys on the hunt all the time. How serious they are, I dont know. Maybe just looking to have sex but I go to alot of different functions and events and there are guys there, available and looking, and that's for more than sex. Same with women I'd say.
No, we shouldn't automatically ignore what happens in other cultures, but I am in no way doing that. The situations are entirely different. What men in japan are responding to and how they are responding to it is entirely different than what men are responding to in America and how they are responding to it. If the situations were similar I would gladly talk of it, but they're not.
Right on girl! Every word.
For someone who values are traditional, why not church? Politically interested? Get involved with a candidate or party. There are loads of groups representing many varied interests listed in my paper every day. The internet makes it much easier to locate events as well.
If one is truly interested, a marriageable person can be found.
Well, you go back to your crappy relationships and I'll stay with my successful one. Ever stop to think that it might not be American women, it might be you?
Agreed....you can easily *see* guys on the hunt all the time. How serious they are, I dont know. Maybe just looking to have sex but I go to alot of different functions and events and there are guys there, available and looking, and that's for more than sex. Same with women I'd say.
Right on girl! Every word.
For someone who values are traditional, why not church? Politically interested? Get involved with a candidate or party. There are loads of groups representing many varied interests listed in my paper every day. The internet makes it much easier to locate events as well.
If one is truly interested, a marriageable person can be found.
It wasn't meant to :roll:The fact that lots of people are bad at it in no way disproves my point. :roll:
Especially when over 70% of divorces are initiated by women.
A modern American woman can literally cash in her marriage when she feels like it, at the detriment of the husband, who will be broke for the next 20 years. Or for the rest of his life.
'Racial' characteristics?
You had a 'racial' criteria?
You make men sound like such delicate flowers who can't achieve without the help of a woman. You also make them sound shallow and childish.
No one said that they weren't around.
These days, however; they simply tend to be the exception, rather than the rule in demographics under thirty.
Frankly, the fact that it is even necessary to basically bend over backwards to find anyone interested in something halfway serious (and even then, the vast majority of such relationships ultimately wind up ending in divorce) should really tell you something about the state of gender relations in our current society in and of itself.
True. I saw them at a function I was at this weekend and there wasn't a drop of alcohol in sight.
You're the outlier here so please spare us the moral superiority schtick. This cheap peacocking of yours is tiring to read. Here's the deal:
White women prefer white men to the exclusion of everyone else—and Asian and Hispanic women prefer them even more exclusively. These three types of women only respond well to white men. More significantly, these groups’ reply rates to non-whites is terrible. Asian women write back non-white males at 21.9%, Hispanic women at 22.9%, and white women at 23.0%. It’s here where things get interesting, for white women in particular. If you look at the match-by-race table before this one, the “should-look-like” one, you see that white women have an above-average compatibility with almost every group. Yet they only reply well to guys who look like them.
Your "point" is that you think men deserve respect instead of needing to earn it. Your entitlement **** ain't playing well.
This farce of a thread is what happens when someone stops looking at females as a collection of individuals, each with their own desires and outlook on life and look at women as a group which is lacking desired traits from nearly 60 years ago in terms of what is mainstream America.
LMAO Yeah...blame women completely when they are only HALF the equation.
Is this really a surprise? I'd dump him too for cheating. More women would (and should IMO) except for the kids' sake.
Top 10 Reasons Why Women Divorce | Cindy Holbrook | YourTango
Not all have it at Number 1 but it's always in the short list. However the other top reasons certainly show *why* the blame doesnt all fall on the woman. Again..men are just pissed off that women now HAVE more options and independence and dont have to accept bad marriages anymore. (that 'control thing.)
Why Are Most Divorces Filed by Women?
"A generation ago, women were less likely to file for divorce if in an unhappy or abusive marriage. Most were financially dependent on their spouse and feared the social stigma of divorce.
Today women are more likely to have careers of their own, are less financially dependent on their spouse and no longer fear the social stigma of divorce. Women are more educated and more empowered, which keeps them from accepting abuse or a marriage that is not meeting their needs.
Below Are A Few Reasons Why Most Divorces Are Initiated By Women:
1. Seeking Relief From a Bad Marriage
2. Escape Domestic Abuse
3. Women are Less Tolerant of Infidelity"
Men want to be able to be crap husbands and now have much less power to stop women from having to deal with them. They dont like the 'less power' thing.
I take exception to the claim that ALL of the U.S. population growth is the segment you describe as welfare dependent.
Feminist articles showcasing women and their unrealistic standards via hypergamy. Am I supposed to be impressed that those articles are stereotyping men as nothing but low-down, abusive cheaters?
You keep assuming men are jealous that women are able to be a paper pusher or a nurse nowadays. Sadly mistaken.
This is a general question which riffs off your observation. In contemporary society men are still bound to certain attitudes towards women, things they can't do to women which they can do to men, like arguing and getting in someone's face, watching our language, watching sexual innuendo, etc. There is a whole code that still exists which binds men to treat women in certain ways.
What is the counterpart code which binds all women to treat men in certain ways? What courtesies do women grant to men that they don't grant to other women?
So it's their own fault then. Of course it is. As Gina said...if that's where you look for girls (bars, clubs) dont be surprised by the kind of girls you find.
And what was implied in my post is that all you have to do is go out and DO something and you can meet people. And they'll know people. And you have a good chance of meeting someone you actually have something in common with. Why waste time *trolling?* Go DO something for the sake of doing it and see what happens. You dont have to DO something only for the purpose of sex or relationships.
Does this really have to be explained? And if it does...like I said....it's the guy's or woman's responsibility if they cant manage their romantic lives. These arent secrets!
This is a general question which riffs off your observation. In contemporary society men are still bound to certain attitudes towards women, things they can't do to women which they can do to men, like arguing and getting in someone's face, watching our language, watching sexual innuendo, etc. There is a whole code that still exists which binds men to treat women in certain ways.
What is the counterpart code which binds all women to treat men in certain ways? What courtesies do women grant to men that they don't grant to other women?
So because you have chosen to stop trying to date, you feel there is a groundswell of other guys like yourself. Now I see. Having sons in your demographic, my personal experience with them, indicates otherwise. When I include my daughter's male friends, co-workers and acquaintances, the same can be said.
I'm sorry, but you're simply out of touch with modern reality on this subject. The bar and club scene is the established standard for under 30 gender interaction in our current culture.
This is the case largely due to the fact that younger generations of men and women alike have been conditioned not to take relationships particularly seriously, or even really view them as being necessary, in the first place.
While it certainly isn't impossible to meet people who are more serious in this regard (if you have the economic means to actually attract their interest), you've basically got to bend over backwards to find them. They are, as I said before, the exception, not the rule.
You're generally not going to stumble upon them by accident as such.
Men are not bound by that "code", any more than woman are bound to respect men. Society has, as it always does, changed with time.
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