Sad, sad state of affairs when all demo's have these days are personal smears, and conspiracy theory.
j-mac
Do you think someone here illegally and who lied on a federal form should be doported or not. Simple question.
Yeah, like the fact that the current Governor is a Republican?
I knew that you didn't live in CA - you just took Meg's side because she happens to be the Republican and most Reps/cons don't care what their candidates do, as long as they are Reps they will defend and vote for them.
Like I told you before, I guess it went over your head. I know that you claim that Nicky paid her taxes and so did Whitman, but that has not been verified by IRS, so until it is, it is a moot point.
If Meg Whitman wants to criminalize employers who hire illegal immigrants, then she should be the first to get charged.In this case she should be put in jail first, then deported after she served her time.
If Meg Whitman wants to criminalize employers who hire illegal immigrants, then she should be the first to get charged.
You think Arnold is a Republican? LOL!!!
j-mac
In California, almost everyone knows that most Hispanic housekeepers are illegal immigrants and that anyone can buy a DL and SS in Los Angeles. So either Whitman was very naive or she didn't care about Nicki's legality. And if she was naive, then she doesn't have the intelligence to run a state like California and if she didn't care, then she's a hypocrite. Either way she loses on this issue.You need to understand what happened here.
The woman needs to go to jail for getting a drivers license, under penalty of perjury, under false pretenses.
The state should prosecute here for the fraud, not for being inthe country illegal.
This woman broke a ton of laws and she should pay for that then get deported.
I assume by your comment that you beleive she knew the woman was illegal.
What would you have done that Whitman did not do to insure this woman was in the country legally?
In California, almost everyone knows that most Hispanic housekeepers are illegal immigrants and that anyone can buy a DL and SS in Los Angeles. So either Whitman was very naive or she didn't care about Nicki's legality. And if she was naive, then she doesn't have the intelligence to run a state like California and if she didn't care, then she's a hypocrite. Either way she loses on this issue.
Yes, I am aware there are many legal Hispanic residents in California and many of them became legal thanks to Reagan's amnesty program.Are you aware there are a lot of legal hispanic residents in California. There are even more people of hispanic decent that were born in California.
You didn't answer the question. What would you have done that Whitman did not do to insure the woman was legally able to work other than assume she was illegal which of couse is biased against hispanics.
Yes, I am aware there are many legal Hispanic residents in California and many of them became legal thanks to Reagan's amnesty program.
I lived in LA for 20 years and I have hired many housekeepers over the years and I didn't care if they were legal or not and I'm pretty sure Whitman didn't care either when she hired Nicki. Don't ask, don't tell, is the American way.
You are the one who is biased if you would put an illegal immigrant in jail simply because they came here to find work. It shows you don't understand or even know what the American free trade agreement NAFTA did to Mexico's economy and why so many of their people risk their lives to cross the border. The US free trade policies bears most of the blame for the mass illegal immigration from Mexico. What we sowed, so shall we reap.
http://www.twnside.org.sg/title2/resurgence/182-183/Cover06.doc
What is your problem? Do you think your snarky insults will somehow make you appear intelligent or convince me you are right? Well, you couldn't be more wrong.What you say doesn't make any sense but don't let that stop you.
If a person doesn't care if a worker is illegal they wouldn't jump through all the hoops she did to be legal on everything.
You can't read very well can you?
I don't give a rat's ass what you said. Nicki wouldn't have had to falsify her documents if she wasn't an illegal immigrant and if you can't understand that then you don't understand anything.I said she needs to be jailed for falsifying information to the California DMV and to other agencies. It is a felony to sign a document under penalty of perjury when you know the information is false. She did that more than once. Do you think she gets a pass because she is inthe country illegally and maybe you think US law does not apply to her.
I seriously doubt there is a person in this country that hasn't broken a law or two, including you. Laws are meaningless unless they are enforced and/or obeyed. Few people cared about the immigration laws until a few white supremists in Arizonia decided they could get rich off the federal government by imprisoning illegal immigrants in private prisons. I think the motive behind the sudden interest in anti-immigration is dispiciple.I don't know why some people think it is OK to break the law with no consequences. Identity theft is also a crime and she should be prosecuted for that, and if the person knowingly gave her permission to use her SS number, she needs to be jailed as well. If there were some kind of consequences to illegal action, maybe some of these people would think twice about doing some of this ****ed up ****.
"Losers of society?" Geez, and you had the nerve to call me biased? And what do you mean you "don't need them back here in Mexico?" Are you living in Mexico and exploiting their cheap resources while you whine about the laws in the US?The people crossing the border looking for work "to feed their families" are the losers of society. You can keep them. We don't need them back here in Mexico.
Yes, I am aware there are many legal Hispanic residents in California and many of them became legal thanks to Reagan's amnesty program.
I lived in LA for 20 years and I have hired many housekeepers over the years and I didn't care if they were legal or not and I'm pretty sure Whitman didn't care either when she hired Nicki. Don't ask, don't tell, is the American way.
You are the one who is biased if you would put an illegal immigrant in jail simply because they came here to find work. It shows you don't understand or even know what the American free trade agreement NAFTA did to Mexico's economy and why so many of their people risk their lives to cross the border. The US free trade policies bears most of the blame for the mass illegal immigration from Mexico. What we sowed, so shall we reap.
http://www.twnside.org.sg/title2/resurgence/182-183/Cover06.doc
Because going through an agency is how most people hire housekeepers. Thats how I hired all my housekeepers. Some couldn't even speak english.If she didn't care then why go through hiring through an employment agency and asking for all those documents?
I posted a link if you care to read it.LOL! Free trade made Mexico poorer? Oh please, do tell.
You think Arnold is a Republican? LOL!!!
j-mac
You are saying that Whitman did nothing wrong because you are taking her word against others. Since it is going to court, it will be decided whether or not she did something wrong. For you to say that before the court decides is so typical of Republicans - they always defend other Republicans before they have all the facts.Not true. I am defending Meg because she did nothing wrong in this instance. However, to prove you wrong and because it's just so easy... There are republicans that I will not defend and will be happy to criticize. For example, I will criticize Bush 1, Christine Odonnel, the guy that stepped on that girls head. However, just as most democrats will vote for democrats, I will typically vote for republican. Having said that, though, there is a democrat I have voted for. I will vote for that same democrat, when he comes up for re-election - which I think is Tuesday.
When Whitman/Nicky go to court it will be determined whether or not taxes have been paid.The IRS doesn't affirm that people have paid their taxes. For instance, I never once heard them state that you paid your taxes. Using your logic (I use that term quite loosely) you are obviously a tax evader.
And, since it hasn't gone to court, we don't have word from the IRS. It will be a known fact then, but until then, the IRS won't say that she hasn't.Instead, what the IRS does is affirm, through charges, that taxes have not been paid.
Taxes were paid to a name that was not Nicky's. Remember, Whitman was sent a letter telling her that Nicky's SSN did not match the name they had for that number?No one with any knoweldge (including the IRS, Meg, the maid, the attorneys, etc) have contradicted the statement that the maid's taxes were paid. The only people that are contradicting, are people that have no clue (such as you) but instead have an axe to grind.
Their state is a mess, and they keep voting into power the individuals that made it that way.
What would you have done that Whitman did not do to insure this woman was in the country legally?
Exactly, they need to vote in a Republican for once or their state is going to become a disaster.
I assume by your comment that you beleive she knew the woman was illegal.
What would you have done that Whitman did not do to insure this woman was in the country legally?
Actually, according to Gloria Alred, it will not be going to court. You can see the video of her admitting this earlier in the thread. I forget who posted it. This was nothing more than a smear by Gloria and the maid, they know they don't have the evidence to take this to court (which is basically what Gloria admitted to when indicating that this won't be in court). Additionally, even if this were going to court, Gloria nor the maid would have standing to file charges for the IRS.When Whitman/Nicky go to court it will be determined whether or not taxes have been paid.
And, since it hasn't gone to court, we don't have word from the IRS. It will be a known fact then, but until then, the IRS won't say that she hasn't.
In other words, according to you, Meg Whitman recieved absolutely no benefit from hiring an illegal. Provides evidence that she really didn't realize it. Someone doesn't hire illegals hoping to pay the same wage and all of the taxes you pay to a legal resident.Taxes were paid to a name that was not Nicky's. Remember, Whitman was sent a letter telling her that Nicky's SSN did not match the name they had for that number?
So, basically, she hasn't paid taxes to her name. So, when you figure that one out, be sure and let us know.
Repubs don't know diddley squawt. It was also another Republican governor, Pete Wilson that put California in the toilet and the state has never recovered.Ha,ha,ha! I guess Reps/cons don't know that Schwarzenegger is a Republican?
And besides, it was a Republican that put the country in the toilet.
Because going through an agency is how most people hire housekeepers. Thats how I hired all my housekeepers. Some couldn't even speak english.
I posted a link if you care to read it.
I never said it did.And the Social Security number and all the other documents? Also, since when did not speaking English make you illegal?
NAFTA allowed the US to export our subsidized corn into Mexico to compete with local subsistance farmers. Of course, the Mexican farmers could not compete with the cheaper imported US corn that was dumped on their markets and so millions of small farmers had to abandon their farms to seek work in the cities or in the US. Those that stayed only do so because now they grow illegal crops such as opium and marijuana. Within the last 15 to 20 years, Mexico has gone from a country that fed itself to an importer of 80% of it's food. Thats what the US free trade did to Mexico and why there are so many illegal immigrants risking their lives trying to find work here in the US and why the drug cartels are having a hey day. Our US trade polices and corporate greed created this mess and because of it, we now have a major national security risk at our border with Mexico where once we had a peaceful and friendly neighbor.Just summarize for me that trade does not lead to mutual benefits.
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