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I thought of that approach, but this issue of not provoking nuclear is real and you have to be careful playing games. Hitler didn't have nukes.
Fighter Pilots Reveal Why You Don't Want To Mess With The A-10 Warthog In A Dogfight
Pilots discuss how the A-10 Warthog's tight turning radius coupled with its big gun means it can sting even the best fighters in a dogfight.www.thedrive.com
"Sell" Ukraine some A-10's and then allow ex A-10 pilots to fly them against against the Russian's for money as did the Flying Tigers in China during WWII. That 40 miles of convoy would make real good targets and the Russian's could not say it was the US fighting them. And if you read the article above, if the russian's have not been trained to fight the A-10s , they can get hurt trying to take them down with their fighters.
independentusa:Fighter Pilots Reveal Why You Don't Want To Mess With The A-10 Warthog In A Dogfight
Pilots discuss how the A-10 Warthog's tight turning radius coupled with its big gun means it can sting even the best fighters in a dogfight.www.thedrive.com
"Sell" Ukraine some A-10's and then allow ex A-10 pilots to fly them against against the Russian's for money as did the Flying Tigers in China during WWII. That 40 miles of convoy would make real good targets and the Russian's could not say it was the US fighting them. And if you read the article above, if the russian's have not been trained to fight the A-10s , they can get hurt trying to take them down with their fighters.
I think that's how the world feels. It's part of the burden of our allowing nuclear weapons. We need to look for other ways to take action than to have nuclear war.That's great to see, but it's still SICKENING seeing all the horrific images coming out of Ukraine and watching the U.S. and NATO stay on the sidelines.
However Putin does depend on the logic of flag nations to make his threats. Just take his argument away. Expatriot Volunteers fighting outside the flag of their own nations are already crossing the border into Ukraine to fight for Ukraine and I expect their numbers to grow exponentially. So its already happening at some level. At some point, pilots will show up only needing planes and there is little Putin can do about it. That is also why he cannot allow even one inch of Ukraine to survive as still the sovereign nation of Ukraine. As long as one spec of Ukraine survives as sovereign Putin has lost this war and even if he takes all of the territory of Ukraine he simply cannot hold it all at once.I thought of that approach, but this issue of not provoking nuclear is real and you have to be careful playing games. Hitler didn't have nukes.
Wouldn’t that be really easy to shoot down with antiaircraft missiles?Fighter Pilots Reveal Why You Don't Want To Mess With The A-10 Warthog In A Dogfight
Pilots discuss how the A-10 Warthog's tight turning radius coupled with its big gun means it can sting even the best fighters in a dogfight.www.thedrive.com
"Sell" Ukraine some A-10's and then allow ex A-10 pilots to fly them against against the Russian's for money as did the Flying Tigers in China during WWII. That 40 miles of convoy would make real good targets and the Russian's could not say it was the US fighting them. And if you read the article above, if the russian's have not been trained to fight the A-10s , they can get hurt trying to take them down with their fighters.
Actually, if you rad the article with my OP, you will see that the A-10 can take care of itself if the fighter pilot has not been trained . The A-10's are flying at low level where speed, if not used correctly, can actually work against the fighter.independentusa:
A-10s are tough planes but they would be sitting-ducks if not operating with the protection of air superiority. Your idea would be a suicide mission without friendly air cover to protect the Warthogs from Russian fighter planes and their missiles. It would also likely widen the war to include any country that foolishly allowed such a "War for Hire" entity to operate from the host nation's territory.
Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy
Independentusa:Actually, if you rad the article with my OP, you will see that the A-10 can take care of itself if the fighter pilot has not been trained . The A-10's are flying at low level where speed, if not used correctly, can actually work against the fighter.
Fighter Pilots Reveal Why You Don't Want To Mess With The A-10 Warthog In A Dogfight
Pilots discuss how the A-10 Warthog's tight turning radius coupled with its big gun means it can sting even the best fighters in a dogfight.www.thedrive.com
"Sell" Ukraine some A-10's and then allow ex A-10 pilots to fly them against against the Russian's for money as did the Flying Tigers in China during WWII. That 40 miles of convoy would make real good targets and the Russian's could not say it was the US fighting them. And if you read the article above, if the russian's have not been trained to fight the A-10s , they can get hurt trying to take them down with their fighters.
Fighter Pilots Reveal Why You Don't Want To Mess With The A-10 Warthog In A Dogfight
Pilots discuss how the A-10 Warthog's tight turning radius coupled with its big gun means it can sting even the best fighters in a dogfight.www.thedrive.com
"Sell" Ukraine some A-10's and then allow ex A-10 pilots to fly them against against the Russian's for money as did the Flying Tigers in China during WWII. That 40 miles of convoy would make real good targets and the Russian's could not say it was the US fighting them. And if you read the article above, if the russian's have not been trained to fight the A-10s , they can get hurt trying to take them down with their fighters.
Good points, craig
That's great to see, but it's still SICKENING seeing all the horrific images coming out of Ukraine and watching the U.S. and NATO stay on the sidelines.
When I was 16 a friend and I were walking a few blocks to the local basketball courts.
We came upon a street fight where this 200-pound kid was on top of and beating a much smaller dude.
We dropped our basketballs, grabbed the big kid and threw him to the ground.
I said, "Pick on somebody your own size, asshole."
He said, "F*** you", got up and walked away.
I would've felt like absolute shit if we ignored that fight and just kept walking.
That's basically how I feel right now watching this f***in' russian madman destroy Ukraine...
Ukraine already had the su-25 aircraft which was comparable with the a-10 and performed the same role, they did not last. Problem is cas aircraft need to work in environments with air superiority, and ukraine does not have that, meaning if we sent them a bunch of a-10's they would likely be lost just as fast as we sent them.Fighter Pilots Reveal Why You Don't Want To Mess With The A-10 Warthog In A Dogfight
Pilots discuss how the A-10 Warthog's tight turning radius coupled with its big gun means it can sting even the best fighters in a dogfight.www.thedrive.com
"Sell" Ukraine some A-10's and then allow ex A-10 pilots to fly them against against the Russian's for money as did the Flying Tigers in China during WWII. That 40 miles of convoy would make real good targets and the Russian's could not say it was the US fighting them. And if you read the article above, if the russian's have not been trained to fight the A-10s , they can get hurt trying to take them down with their fighters.
What you said is true about russians dogfighting an a-10, however when it comes to other aircraft the russians like to get down and dirty. The premier russian air superiority fighter the flanker series is slightly inferior to the f-15 in long range fighting and slightly superior to the f-15 in close range fighting and turning.Independentusa:
I had indeed read the article which you linked to when I made my earlier comment. The article you cited is about close-in dogfights which are now rare in modern air-to-air conflicts. The Russians have radar-homing and heat-seeking missiles which can kill an A-10 from a great distance, far out of the range of a GAU-8 30mm Gatling cannon. No competent Russian pilot is going to climb into the "phone booth"with any armed plane if it can be avoided and it can be avoided. Furthermore, it takes many months or years of training and experience to bring a Warthog pilot up to the level of proficiency necessary to tangle in a close-quarters dogfight, so even if experienced Russian pilots were daft enough to get suckered into going gun-to-gun with an A-10, the inexperienced Ukrainian pilots would very likely not have the proficiency to emerge from the scrap intact. It would be a turkey-shoot for the Russian airforce.
Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.
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