First, I would ask for evidence of looting.I'm sorry, but I have to disagree completely. When this group, whether you call them OWS black bloc or whatever, starts violence by vandalizing small business owners and looting items, these people are nothing but thugs and theives. I support the right for people to defend themselves and their property.
It's not fascism to defend yourself and your property from being damaged, destroyed, or looted by thugs.
Hmmm, you think? I doubt it, you're not on the same intellectual level as I am.
There is no rationalization for these criminal activities.
Regarding the charge that people are not lashing out at the government but the evil rich................ there is a strong feeling among many people - and they are NOT bomb throwers of poop propellers - that far too often the government serves the evil rich over everyone else.
Can you identify these small businesses for us?I simply cannot understand how people can support a group who uses violence against small business owners in destroying and looting items. [...]
Particularly not in the targets either as these are more riots than revolt. But there were those condemning the destruction of private property and violence and blah; but we did pretty much exactly that when we revolted against Britain. I just find it funny that some people in their zeal to denounce OWS also denounce the Founders.
First, I would ask for evidence of looting.
Second, I would ask for evidence of ties to OWS.
Third, I would ask how the desire of internet vigilantes to kill people they don't like is "defending themselves and their property."
Last, I would appreciate if you address those items in your reply before making up anything else.
And you know this how? Mind reading abilities?You do know, that these kids don't share the idea of "liberty" that you think. most are dependent class liberal slobs or mommy boys with a platnium cards in thier wallet.... [...]
Ah, I see - dehumanizing someone to lessen the cognitive dissonance of murdering them.[....] by throwing a rock through my window, I hope they enjoy my lead 5.56 "acorn" I'll be putting in thier head.
Would you like some more tea to go with that elitist buffoonery ....
Not only have I forgotten more than you will ever learn, but I also took up the gun for 7 years to defend your liberty.
Slam-dunk on you
What free stuff, specifically?The Boston Tea party, and events leading up to it, were a protest against taxation on the colonies, absent representation, not about a bunch of punk kids wanting free stuff [...]
These "knuckledraggers" would never have tried the same thing with the Tea Party protesters because they know that any attempt at violence, or damage to public property, would have put them in serious harm's way. The Tea partiers love their country and what it stands for.
But they know that they can get away with this sort of thing with the OWSers because the OWSers tend to behave like a disoriented mob and are, of course, not terribly bright. Their knuckles would show a lot of wear as well.
Can you give us any specifics? Or any facts?Boston Tea Party was a tax revolt, These #ows of dubious causes types want to increase taxes.rof
What free stuff, specifically?
And do you have any links or evidence of these alleged demands for this "free stuff"?
but free tuition comes from government.
Notice, he didn't ask if the violent protestors were NOT anarchists, he asked "What free stuff (does OWS want) specifically", the portion in brackets is the inferred subject, which I added. I posted links to answer that specific question.I thought the violent protesters were anarchists.
I denounce their validity and their ideology. The tactics they use can be used by any group... the issue really is how it's perceived. If there is enough support by the populace, a violent act can be seen as an uprising, a demonstration or the start of a revolt. The problem is, back in the day there were very few people in the U.S., yet most of them had a very similar background, came from generally the same place (England or England's rather large commonwealth of controlled country's), and had a similar view and experiences of England. Today, that's the not the case in any sense. I seriously doubt anything less than a North Korean totalitarianistic government take over or invasion by a foreign power would cause and uprising that would be generally supported in this country.
To your earlier comment about 10% to start an uprising - that may be true to start but it would be easily crushed, their message however valid, manipulated and denounced... etc. IMO it would take probably 25% or more and the vast minority of that would need to be peaceful unless of course we're in a Stalin-esque type environment which would necessitate a full take down of the government and I just don't see that happening any time soon, or maybe I should say the probability is incredibly low.
Can't free tuition come from the private sector as well? For example, charity based education.
Notice, he didn't ask if the violent protestors were NOT anarchists, he asked "What free stuff (does OWS want) specifically", the portion in brackets is the inferred subject, which I added. I posted links to answer that specific question.
I'm a PhD physics, what you have and will know in your entire life is but a subset of my knowledge.
Slam-dunk on you
One could come to that conclusion, yet that's not so difficult to believe. Most organizations do not share a 100% commonality of views. Most have diverse views and yes, even "fringe" views.Oh. So, the peaceful OWS protesters want perks from the government, while the violent anarchist protesters want to end government altogether.
Not necessarily. It's just another means to the same end, via a different methodology.That puts them on opposite sides of the issue, doesn't it?
but free tuition comes from government. I thought the violent protesters were anarchists.
No, OWS is all communist. How can there be anarchists? hehehe
A PhD Physics, who hangs out at DP, attempting to validate the anarchist scum by making absurd comparisons to such as our Founders and those who fought the Revolution.
Maybe you should have gone for a degree in American history ? or civics ? How about just one semester of common sense ?
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