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This thread is to refute the idea that the creation myth found in Genesis 1 has any sort of basis in material reality.
It's obvious that the Genesis creation myth bears no resemblance to our current understanding of the formation of the Earth, Solar System, or evolution of life. While interpretations can get quite creative, and honest reading shows there's no merit to this argument
Here, we have, prior to anything else, liquid water. Dihydrogen monoxide, existing without starts to fuel nuclear fusion, before photons, before a solid Earth, before an atmosphere to trap heat.In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Now we have, after water, the creation of photons, light, but without a source. This could be the Big Bang, but the previous verses have liquid water existing already.And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Here we have the creation of an atmosphere, prior to the Earth having geology. God's dividing waters here, so the obvious conclusion is space is basically soup, not a vacuum.And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
Landfall! After water, and light, but before the sun, or any suns, we have land.And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
And on the land, we have photosynthetic life. Before the sun, we have flowering plants, producing fruit from flowers, pollinated by....nothing.And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
And the evening and the morning were the third day.
Now finally, we have the Sun. We have, presumably, a solar system, whereas before the Earth was simply hurtling through watery space. How the Sun's nuclear fusion is happening while in an ocean of water is another matter entirely.And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
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Here we're aquatic mammals, fish and birds, all emerging from the ocean at the same time. That's an interesting fossil record there.And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
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Now we get terrestrial animals, emerging from the land, Absolutely no aquatic origin for these critters.And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Lastly, we have the emergence of modern humans ex nihilo.And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
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It's obvious that the Genesis creation myth bears no resemblance to our current understanding of the formation of the Earth, Solar System, or evolution of life. While interpretations can get quite creative, and honest reading shows there's no merit to this argument