It was probably longer. I lost track of time...actually, I think I became time.
There is so much ignorance in this post I almost dont know where to begin.
First lets start with your assertion the marijuana is less harmful alcohol, this is debatable but irrelevant. Alcohol is a harmful substance that is a major factor in 45% of crimes and you want to unleash marijuana on the population because it slightly less harmful?
As for Mass "defying" the voters, the country and the state of Mass are Representative democracy and not a direct democracy for a reason. The will of the voters only extends as far as the representatives the choose. So if the representatives see the need to alter a bill thats exactly how the system is supposed to work.
As for workplace accidents: "In May 2015, an article in the Journal of Occupational and Environmental Medicine concluded that there is a likely statistical association between illicit drug use, including marijuana, and workplace accidents"
Marijuana Use and Its Impact on Workplace Safety and Productivity -- Occupational Health & Safety
Its has nothing to with "moral crusaders", legal marijuana is objectively harmful to society and I would argue to a point that it should not ever be legalized
Be thankful you don't live in a semi-regressive morass like FL.
We voted to legalize medical weed. The state has tried to bury by any means they could find. What made it through in the end is a bill that prohibits product that can be "smoked". WTF? Originally edibles were also to be illegal.
They will be sued, no doubt, the fact that they think they can subvert their constituents and count on their gerrymandered districts to protect their lifetime teat-suckle jobs is maddening.
I knew Rick Scott was a moron from the beginning. He worked for a drug testing company for Gods sake. What the hell is wrong with that state? I watched the debates and Scott looked like a nimrod.
Are you talking about being high on the job, or just that someone who smokes pot on their off time?
Only 4? Either they weren't good, or you didn't do enough... lol... (Don't listen to a word I say, I was a mushroom warrior in my ne'er-do-well youth, I pushed the limits out into the stratosphere...hehe... I (kinda) remember one epic night I made tea from a half ounce of shrooms, and when no one would do it with me, I drank the whole thing... But, never hurt me, and I turned out alright...hehe)
It's been a long time, though, as the next day isn't conducive to being a productive, responsible adult...lol... At least, not with the responsibilities I have. It was a lot of fun, though.
I debated this until I was blue in the face for 35 years. I got sick of saying it was a much safer drug than booze, cigarettes and almost all illegal drugs or the hypocrisy of the whole anti marijuana crusade and the fanaticism that drove them. Now the Mass house is trying to defy voters and screw with the law big time. They are trying to raise the tax to 28% from the voter approved bill. Will the crusaders never quit even after the fight is lost.
People need to stop trying to make it hard on pot smokers. It is stupid to raise taxes to the point the legal market can't compete with the black market. It is stupid for employers to deny jobs to pot smokers where there is no proof they make more mistakes or get hurt more. Give me a break anti pot moral crusaders. The fight is over and you will learn what we pot smokers have known for years. Marijuana is fun and popular. People will not put up with steps backward on this new right we have fought for.
I smoked right up until my 4th year in the Navy, and I stopped the day my daughter was born in 1981.
Quick story......
My son smokes and always thinks he can hide it from me....(like I care) He let me borrow his fishing Kayak a couple weeks ago for a few hours and dropped it off at my house on his way home after he was on the water all morning with his buddies. He forgot that he left his tupperware in the bait pod. I texted him while I was on the water and said that I cleared out all those nasty weeds in his bait holder and he should take better care of his boat.No texts returned.......:lamo
I have always supported recreational and medical use for pot.
There is so much ignorance in this post I almost dont know where to begin.
First lets start with your assertion the marijuana is less harmful alcohol, this is debatable but irrelevant. Alcohol is a harmful substance that is a major factor in 45% of crimes and you want to unleash marijuana on the population because it slightly less harmful?
As for Mass "defying" the voters, the country and the state of Mass are Representative democracy and not a direct democracy for a reason. The will of the voters only extends as far as the representatives the choose. So if the representatives see the need to alter a bill thats exactly how the system is supposed to work.
As for workplace accidents: "In May 2015, an article in the Journal of Occupational and Environmental Medicine concluded that there is a likely statistical association between illicit drug use, including marijuana, and workplace accidents"
Marijuana Use and Its Impact on Workplace Safety and Productivity -- Occupational Health & Safety
Its has nothing to with "moral crusaders", legal marijuana is objectively harmful to society and I would argue to a point that it should not ever be legalized[/QUO
I looked at that pro drug testing propaganda you posted. How is it a institution that promoted the money making industry of drug testing be expected to give us a un biased opinion? Why drunks are not held to the same standard? I remember working with drunks. They where grouchy on Monday morning. They missed work like crazy and when overtime in Saturday they would show up late if at all. We let those people slide. I would put a person on pot over that any day of the week. I saw old pictures of laborers drinking beer at lunch from 1920.I worked in engineering at Boeing from 1980 to 1994. Drinking was a way of life for those older guys I worked with. They only lived to be about 68 before they died. They also smoked cigarettes like crazy. How can pot be worse that that?
I've always wondered what he was smoking for all that to happen. Had to be the dankest of the dank, because no matter how much I smoke it doesn't seem to ruin my life like that...
hehe...well, in terms of safest recreational drug known to man, it's actually magic mushrooms - it's the fastest drug to leave your system, it leaves nothing behind, and you can't die from any part of it (even too much pot smoked rather than vaporized has similar risks to cigarettes) - but who the hell has time for that past the good ol' college days...hehe
Maybe in retirement........
Unless you boss fires you for a failed drug test. That has to end now.
Come onto my job site smelling of booze or pot and you won't have to look at my ugly mug ever again, because you will never step foot on my job again. Pot heads and boozers who can't wait for knock off to get high are dangerous to themselves and everyone else around them.
Sitting a home watching TV, sitting out back, or smoking at some party........... is a entirely different scenario altogether.
Not sure if you know absolutely nothing about marijuana or you thought you could lie and not get caught
The type or marijuana that gets you high is not natural nor is it "found on the ground", it is specially cultivated to maximize THC content. Any marijuana plant you randomly found on the ground would be worthless to smoke.
Not sure if you know absolutely nothing about marijuana or you thought you could lie and not get caught
The type or marijuana that gets you high is not natural nor is it "found on the ground", it is specially cultivated to maximize THC content. Any marijuana plant you randomly found on the ground would be worthless to smoke.
You cannot possibly be serious. First of all, you're talking about industrial hemp. That has no or virtually no THC and therefore cannot get someone high. That's different. The other guy already explained that.
Second, the idea that cultivation of pot means it "is not natural nor is it "found on the ground," makes no sense. Every single fruit or vegetable humans eat has been selectively bred for centuries or millenia. You wouldn't say a carrot "is not natural nor is it "found on the ground," would you?
Third, your reasoning trips over itself. The only reason we have cultivated pot nowadays is that long ago, people noticed that untended wild strains produced a pleasant effect. So they started cultivating it. So no, it was never true that you cannot get high from wild strains.
Yet again, you remind us that the people most adamantly opposed to marijuana tend to know the least about it.
You cannot possibly be serious. First of all, you're talking about industrial hemp. That has no or virtually no THC and therefore cannot get someone high. That's different. The other guy already explained that.
Second, the idea that cultivation of pot means it "is not natural nor is it "found on the ground," makes no sense. Every single fruit or vegetable humans eat has been selectively bred for centuries or millenia. You wouldn't say a carrot "is not natural nor is it "found on the ground," would you?
Third, your reasoning trips over itself. The only reason we have cultivated pot nowadays is that long ago, people noticed that untended wild strains produced a pleasant effect. So they started cultivating it. So no, it was never true that you cannot get high from wild strains.
Yet again, you remind us that the people most adamantly opposed to marijuana tend to know the least about it.
I believe what crovax was trying to say I believe is that much of the pot people are smoking today is not what grows naturally but are sativa-indica crossbreeds or even genetically manipulated hybrids that have a much higher thc content.
These are not the plants that you would or usually throw some seeds out in the garden and they grow. They often require specialized environments and lighting, some are grown hydro or aeroponically etc.. the high caliber pot that is out there these days most people couldn't grow successfully.
There is wild or easily grown pot sure. but its not the stuff you will see above 20% thc content like the indoor, climate controlled GMO hybrids but prob more in the 4-8% ranges. but yes you can still get high off of that of course.
As I pointed out they are not "genetically manipulated" except to the extent that humans have always bred stuff they raised. Reread points 2 & 3 on that count. Of course people are going to cross-breed something they want to consume. That's what we do.
As for high-THC outdoor weed, I've encountered it plenty. An old dealer used to grow the stuff in fields he scattered around the state, with minimal supervision. Now that MA legalized, I'm doing my own outdoor experiment, so perhaps I'll check back in in a few months. In point of fact, it's actually much easier to grow good weed outside. The only reason all the indoor growing techniques sprang up is illegality.
Further, the claims about weed being only a few percent THC in the past are generally derived from old studies. The problem with old studies is that the feds had to supply the weed to be studied, and they deliberately supplied garbage weed. Properly grown weed has always been significantly stronger, whether indoor or outdoor.
yea the old studies would say todays marijuana was up to 30 times stronger than the old stuff.. but newer studies that have been done since Colorado has legalized it show there is certainly an increased THC potency
.. but also many strains have almost no CBD which makes it less useful for medical marijuana.
as for genetically modified well....
US Patent Pending for Genetically Modified Marijuana > Hawaii Free Press
Also Monsanto ( of course the GMO king is jumping in to this ) has created a genetically modified marijuana
We're overlooking the most important factor in this: the vast vast vast majority of users are not Willie Nelson or Snoop Dog. They do not roll huge joints of whatever they happen to have and smoke them. They take a few puffs as they desire. If the weed is stronger, they actually smoke less of it.
The whole thing is misdirection by someone who quite obviously has no experience and very little knowledge of it. That's unfortunate, because it's also why the War on Drugs has gone on for so long.
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