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Mark of the Beast?

El_Presidente'

El_Presidente'

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Paying for stuff in China using the palm of your hand



Now I'm not religious but did grow up in Church, I've studied many religions of the world but this is very clearly what it says in Revelation about buying and selling and the mark of the beast in the hand or forehead. What are your thoughts?
 
El_Presidente' said:
Paying for stuff in China using the palm of your hand



Now I'm not religious but did grow up in Church, I've studied many religions of the world but this is very clearly what it says in Revelation about buying and selling and the mark of the beast in the hand or forehead. What are your thoughts?
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Either you do or you don't believe in Revelation and this "mark of the beast" crap. Make up your mind.
 
Phys251 said:
Either you do or you don't believe in Revelation and this "mark of the beast" crap. Make up your mind.
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No. People can't read things, recognize when they see it happening and discuss it.

I don't believe 100% in the bible but that doesn't mean I don't see this as eerie or could mean what they were talking about

Maybe stay in your bubble if you dont want actual conversations
 
El_Presidente' said:
Sigh

No. People can't read things, recognize when they see it happening and discuss it.

I don't believe 100% in the bible but that doesn't mean I don't see this as eerie or could mean what they were talking about

Maybe stay in your bubble if you dont want actual conversations
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Quit whining. Either you do believe in the "mark of the beast" or you don't. Which is it?
 
El_Presidente' said:
Sigh

No. People can't read things, recognize when they see it happening and discuss it.

I don't believe 100% in the bible but that doesn't mean I don't see this as eerie or could mean what they were talking about

Maybe stay in your bubble if you dont want actual conversations
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Random Twitter c&p isn’t “conversation.”
 
El_Presidente' said:
Paying for stuff in China using the palm of your hand



Now I'm not religious but did grow up in Church, I've studied many religions of the world but this is very clearly what it says in Revelation about buying and selling and the mark of the beast in the hand or forehead. What are your thoughts?
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Religious nonsense! We started paying for things with cash or check, then moved up to debit/credit cards, and now can pay online or with phone apps and such. Technology progresses and apparently, religion fears progress.
Phys251 said:
Either you do or you don't believe in Revelation and this "mark of the beast" crap. Make up your mind.
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It is religious crap which incites or preys on peoples irrational fears and/or ignorance.
 
Go back to what God said to the Israelite nation to understand what the mark of the beast really is...

How is the mark of the beast placed on someone’s right hand or forehead? (Revelation 13:16) Regarding his commands to the nation of Israel, God said: “Bind them as a reminder on your hand, and they should be like a headband on your forehead.” (Deuteronomy 11:18) This meant, not that the Israelites were to mark their literal hands and foreheads, but that God’s words would guide all their actions and thoughts. Likewise, rather than being something literal such as a 666 tattoo, the mark of the beast symbolically identifies those who let the political system rule their lives. Those with the mark of the beast place themselves in opposition to God.—Revelation 14:9, 10; 19:19-21.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/502014147?q=mark+of+the+beast&p=sen
 
Daisy said:
Go back to what God said to the Israelite nation to understand what the mark of the beast really is...

How is the mark of the beast placed on someone’s right hand or forehead? (Revelation 13:16) Regarding his commands to the nation of Israel, God said: “Bind them as a reminder on your hand, and they should be like a headband on your forehead.” (Deuteronomy 11:18) This meant, not that the Israelites were to mark their literal hands and foreheads, but that God’s words would guide all their actions and thoughts. Likewise, rather than being something literal such as a 666 tattoo, the mark of the beast symbolically identifies those who let the political system rule their lives. Those with the mark of the beast place themselves in opposition to God.—Revelation 14:9, 10; 19:19-21.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/502014147?q=mark+of+the+beast&p=sen
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Hmmm

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

I don't think it'll be something as obvious as a 666 mark. I think it means (in the hand someone chooses it to work, buy and sell but doesn't really believe it) or (forehead, someone willingly chooses to follow the beast)
 
El_Presidente' said:
Hmmm

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

I don't think it'll be something as obvious as a 666 mark. I think it means (in the hand someone chooses it to work, buy and sell but doesn't really believe it) or (forehead, someone willingly chooses to follow the beast)
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the mark of the beast symbolically identifies those who let the political system rule their lives. Those with the mark of the beast place themselves in opposition to God.—Revelation 14:9, 10; 19:19-21.
 
Gordy327 said:
Religious nonsense! We started paying for things with cash or check, then moved up to debit/credit cards, and now can pay online or with phone apps and such. Technology progresses and apparently, religion fears progress.

It is religious crap which incites or preys on peoples irrational fears and/or ignorance.
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You don't find it invasive that the gov can put your info on a chip and force you to get it?

Bodily autonomy not a thing with you?
 
El_Presidente' said:
Paying for stuff in China using the palm of your hand



Now I'm not religious but did grow up in Church, I've studied many religions of the world but this is very clearly what it says in Revelation about buying and selling and the mark of the beast in the hand or forehead. What are your thoughts?
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Nope it isnt
 
El_Presidente' said:
Paying for stuff in China using the palm of your hand



Now I'm not religious but did grow up in Church, I've studied many religions of the world but this is very clearly what it says in Revelation about buying and selling and the mark of the beast in the hand or forehead. What are your thoughts?
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Yeah, China has gone full-on dystopia. The worrisome shit is that other countries, other heads of state are probably interested in replicating this shit.
 
El_Presidente' said:
You don't find it invasive that the gov can put your info on a chip and force you to get it?

Bodily autonomy not a thing with you?
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Seems more convenient and secure. But where is it said it's being forced?
 
El_Presidente' said:
Paying for stuff in China using the palm of your hand



Now I'm not religious but did grow up in Church, I've studied many religions of the world but this is very clearly what it says in Revelation about buying and selling and the mark of the beast in the hand or forehead. What are your thoughts?
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If I can't swipe a card securely, I'm not buying. If good old cold hard cash doesn't work, I'm not buying. AND I'm still convinced 666 is branded somewhere under that gross display of "hair" on trumps demonic unholy head.
 
multivita-man said:
Yeah, China has gone full-on dystopia. The worrisome shit is that other countries, other heads of state are probably interested in replicating this shit.
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Right, on top of that I know the chip on my CAC card in the military had literally all of my info on it. Picturing you get this chip and just like others things criminals access, someone sitting out somewhere scans you when you walk by and steals all your info
 
El_Presidente' said:
Yeah so seems we kinda agree about the mark in the forehead
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But the Bible also says "all the earth followed the wild beast with admiration" Revelation 13:3,4...so it is a willing following, not forced...they do this by giving worshipful honor to their country, its symbols, or its military might....just as The Encyclopedia of Religion states...“Nationalism has become a dominant form of religion in the modern world"...
https://oxfordre.com/religion
 
Daisy said:
But the Bible also says "all the earth followed the wild beast with admiration" Revelation 13:3,4...so it is a willing following, not forced...they do this by giving worshipful honor to their country, its symbols, or its military might....just as The Encyclopedia of Religion states...“Nationalism has become a dominant form of religion in the modern world"...
https://oxfordre.com/religion
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If it was literal as in everyone on the earth then that would mean no one resist and there will always be people who resist, there will always be people who go along to get along and there will always be people who blindly follow and obey
 
El_Presidente' said:
there will always be people who resist,
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True, those who are not in opposition to God, those who refuse to worship the wild beast/political systems of the world...

El_Presidente' said:
there will always be people who go along to get along and there will always be people who blindly follow and obey
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“If anyone worships the wild beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he will also drink of the wine of the anger of God that is poured out undiluted into the cup of His wrath, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the sight of the holy angels and in the sight of the Lamb." Revelation 14:9,10
 
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