The Marine Corps announced that it would give young female lieutenants who wash out of the grueling Infantry Officer Course a second shot, same as their male counterparts.
She wrote that male officers could retake the course if they failed, but that women could not.
So you are critizising that women have to face the same critirea as men?
They are dumbing down the physical requirements and probably the training will be dumbed down.
They already have safety nets on the confidence obstacle course at the Army's Camp Snoopy in the name of political correctness.
How does one gain confidence on a confidence course with a safety net below you ?
Isnt it also part of the training to throw the tied, bound and gaged recruits into a pool of water? And other such things?
I imagine with enough conditioning women will start appearing in the ranks of the Infantry.
The best women in the military, the ones most gung-ho, and the very best all washed out on the first day. I can guarantee that the standards which are going to be devised for both men and women are going to be laxer than current standards. The shrieking of the shrews will assure us of that - it is simply unacceptable that all women end up failing the test. Reality must be bent towards a feminist viewpoint rather than having the feminist viewpoint acknowledge reality.
As for the do-over, every choice involves trade-offs. When men get a do-over there is the expectation that they actually have a chance at succeeding, that something unlucky happened in their first attempt. When women, the best women, are facing this:
“It wasn’t a matter of will, but of pure physical strength,” she wrote. “My mind wanted more, but my muscles quivered in failure after multiple attempts. I began to shiver as I got cold. I was told I could not continue.”
Then we're not talking about bad luck. Repeating the same mistake over and over again won't miraculously transform the mistake into success. The cost of accommodating prideful women is going to be denying a man the slot in the course, a man who actually has a chance of passing. That APPEARANCE OF FAIRNESS which results from giving women a 2nd try actually does have real world costs.
I imagine with enough conditioning women will start appearing in the ranks of the Infantry.
No, they weren't tied, bound and gagged, they were marched into a swamp during the middle of the night and those who couldn't swim drowned.
It's better remembered as the Ribbon Creek Incident.
http://www.tecom.marines.mil/News/N...creek-tragedy-still-ripples-through-time.aspx
So you are critizising that women have to face the same critirea as men?
It usually doesn't happen that way, at least not until standards are either relaxed or re-defined. A good example is with standards for firefighters. It used to be that a firefighter among other standards had to be a certain height and be able to carry a certain amount of weight up and down a ladder. In order to hire more women many department realized the only way to do that was to lower standards.
The fact is if I am in a foxhole and preparing for hand to hand combat with the enemy I would not want a 90 lb woman backing me up......sorry
The fact is if I am in a foxhole and preparing for hand to hand combat with the enemy I would not want a 90 lb woman backing me up......sorry
According to the article you cite it was a poorly planned 'punishment' for recruits by a Drill who had spent the day drinking and napping. Hardly an approved action or part of any training program and disciplinary action was taken on the cadre... FYI this happened in 1956 and helped usher in an era of more supervision on the Drills.
Luckily for you, that's unlikely to happen since the average American female weighs in at 156 pounds, and the average American male weighs 196 pounds. Of course, there are quite a few 156-lb. male soldiers in the field... so if it's the weight putting you off, maybe you can request a burlier substitute to... share that foxhole.
I take it you was 11Bush??? If not what do you know about how grunts are trained? It isn't anything like your firefighter course. I was 11Bush and my weight requirement was a ruck on a road march. The bigger fellas suffered more so than us smaller guys- they weren't used to the ration size, and their bigger, heavier bodies got the better of them through training. They suffered leg and feet problems, whined about being hungry, real PITAs.
The graduating standard was applied through out our training so the Cadre could see who needed their special attention :shock: and who was showing the progress. The military I was in used 'Crawl, Walk, Run' to get us to the standard, not sink or swim. I was 129 lbs when I enlisted, 136 when I turned Blue. The Army spent around 3 months taking a raw civilian and turning him into an enlisted lean, mean killing machine... seems odd the jarheads were only willing to spend one day on females for Combat Arms officers...
Fact is you NEVER came close to being in a 'foxhole', hand to hand was EXTREMELY rare and if it comes down to that the weight of whoever is with you is rather moot. No one weighing 90 pounds, man or woman, would be there beside you... :roll:
Ask me how I know swabbie....
Fact is you NEVER came close to being in a 'foxhole', hand to hand was EXTREMELY rare and if it comes down to that the weight of whoever is with you is rather moot. No one weighing 90 pounds, man or woman, would be there beside you... :roll:
Ask me how I know swabbie....
Luckily for you, that's unlikely to happen since the average American female weighs in at 156 pounds, and the average American male weighs 196 pounds. Of course, there are quite a few 156-lb. male soldiers in the field... so if it's the weight putting you off, maybe you can request a burlier substitute to... share that foxhole.
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