Majority of San Franciscans Support Testing Cash Assistance Recipients for Drug Use: Poll

[VySky]

Odd coming from a liberal stronghold.

Discussion here at DP previously on this testing indicates there isn't much support to test nationally.

"More voters say they support a March ballot measure requiring suspected drug addicts to accept drug tests and treatment to continue getting cash benefits."
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Majority of San Franciscans Support Testing Cash Assistance Recipients for Drug Use: Poll​

Nearly two-thirds of San Francisco voters surveyed say they would vote for a ballot measure that will require those suspected of suffering from substance abuse while receiving cash handouts from the city to submit to drug tests and accept treatment.

Introduced by San Francisco Mayor London Breed and slated for the March 5 primary ballot, Proposition F will ask voters if the city should change the rules for those receiving cash aid from the County Adult Assistance Program—serving adults under 65 years old with no dependents.

Conducted in November by EMC Research— a national opinion research firm—the survey asked 500 San Franciscans if they would vote for such a measure, with 66 percent saying yes and 31 percent saying no, according to Ruth Bernstein, the company’s president and CEO.

Majority of San Franciscans Support Testing Cash Assistance Recipients for Drug Use: Poll

More voters say they support a March ballot measure requiring suspected drug addicts to accept drug tests and treatment to continue getting cash benefits.

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[multivita-man]

Odd coming from a liberal stronghold.

Discussion here at DP previously on this testing indicates there isn't much support to test nationally.

"More voters say they support a March ballot measure requiring suspected drug addicts to accept drug tests and treatment to continue getting cash benefits."
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Majority of San Franciscans Support Testing Cash Assistance Recipients for Drug Use: Poll

More voters say they support a March ballot measure requiring suspected drug addicts to accept drug tests and treatment to continue getting cash benefits.

www.theepochtimes.com

It's not that odd. San Francisco is in danger of losing its reputation as a business-minded city because of its homelessness and uptick in street crime. There comes a point when even progressives see the bright red flashing warning signs of upheaval and realize they have to start thinking differently. The same is true with Eric Adams in New York City, another traditionally, reliably blue (or at least purple) city. Even here in DC, the mayor here, a Democrat, has had it with street crime.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

Odd coming from a liberal stronghold.

Discussion here at DP previously on this testing indicates there isn't much support to test nationally.

"More voters say they support a March ballot measure requiring suspected drug addicts to accept drug tests and treatment to continue getting cash benefits."
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Majority of San Franciscans Support Testing Cash Assistance Recipients for Drug Use: Poll

More voters say they support a March ballot measure requiring suspected drug addicts to accept drug tests and treatment to continue getting cash benefits.

www.theepochtimes.com

Drug tests and drug treatment eh? Sounds very expensive. Sounds more expensive than the actual "cash benefits".

This nonsense has already been tried. Its a proven failure.

 

[NatMorton]

It's not that odd. San Francisco is in danger of losing its reputation as a business-minded city because of its homelessness and uptick in street crime. There comes a point when even progressives see the bright red flashing warning signs of upheaval and realize they have to start thinking differently. The same is true with Eric Adams in New York City, another traditionally, reliably blue (or at least purple) city. Even here in DC, the mayor here, a Democrat, has had it with street crime.

It’s been my observation that when progressives see that “bright red flashing warnings signs” they blame conservatives and double-down by saying the problem is that the polices in place aren’t progressive enough.

 

[Slartibartfast]

I am not sure why anyone would consider this unusual.

 

[multivita-man]

It’s been my observation that when progressives see that “bright red flashing warnings signs” they blame conservatives and double-down by saying the problem is that the polices in place aren’t progressive enough.

Your observations are noted.

 

[VySky]

There comes a point when even progressives see the bright red flashing warning signs of upheaval and realize they have to start thinking differently.

Yes, we call that flip flopping.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Yes, we call that flip flopping.

Its called adjusting when new information presents itself. Its what wise people do.

 

[VySky]

Its called adjusting when new information presents itself. Its what wise people do.

Wise? LMAO--- Remember we are talking about liberals here.

And they have gone to the dark side now demanding drug test for those on welfare.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Wise? LMAO--- Remember we are talking about liberals here.

And they have gone to the dark side now demanding drug test for those on welfare.

Yes exactly, taking in information, contextualizing it into the greater body of information, correlating that information and enhancing that original body, devising a new approach, and implementing that new approach is a factor of wisdom and is what liberals often do.

 

[VySky]

Yes exactly, taking in information, contextualizing it into the greater body of information, correlating that information and enhancing that original body, devising a new approach, and implementing that new approach is a factor of wisdom and is what liberals often do.

In their wet dreams maybe

But in reality where the rest of us live we see they caved. Flip flopped due to the fact for once they applied logic and reason to a known issue.

SF got ahead of their skis.

 

[OrphanSlug]

San Francisco is becoming a case study in what not to do with a city, amplified by the fact that the *only person* they will clean themselves up for is visiting Xi Jinping. Local government, perhaps even the state, does not care about San Franciscans.

 

[Slartibartfast]

In their wet dreams maybe

But in reality where the rest of us live we see they caved. Flip flopped due to the fact for once they applied logic and reason to a known issue.

SF got ahead of their skis.

If you consider the process of learning and changing approaches to be flip/flopping and to be a negative, then that speaks volumes about you.

 

[Slartibartfast]

San Francisco is becoming a case study in what not to do with a city, amplified by the fact that the *only person* they will clean themselves up for is visiting Xi Jinping. Local government, perhaps even the state, does not care about San Franciscans.

There is way too much ego in that city.

 

[NatMorton]

Yes exactly, taking in information, contextualizing it into the greater body of information, correlating that information and enhancing that original body, devising a new approach, and implementing that new approach is a factor of wisdom and is what liberals often do.

Are you sure they just don’t advocate for policies that make them feel better about themselves without regard to reason or result?

 

[NatMorton]

Its called adjusting when new information presents itself. Its what wise people do.

You mean like this?

Blue State Flight Continues

From today’s WSJ on this week’s release of data from the Census Bureau: The U.S. population increased by 1.6 million between July 2022 and July 2023, with states in the South accounting for about 1.4 million of the growth. Leading the boom were Texas (473,453), Florida (365,205), Georgia...

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[Slartibartfast]

Are you sure they just don’t advocate for policies that make them feel better about themselves without regard to reason or result?

That sometimes happens but it’s not the norm. Generally, that kind of accusation is just rhetoric designed to make a conservative feel good about themselves without the need to do anything substantive.

 

[Stealers Wheel]

Odd coming from a liberal stronghold.

Discussion here at DP previously on this testing indicates there isn't much support to test nationally.

"More voters say they support a March ballot measure requiring suspected drug addicts to accept drug tests and treatment to continue getting cash benefits."
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Majority of San Franciscans Support Testing Cash Assistance Recipients for Drug Use: Poll

More voters say they support a March ballot measure requiring suspected drug addicts to accept drug tests and treatment to continue getting cash benefits.

www.theepochtimes.com

This is nothing new. "Testing welfare recipients" has always been a popular campaign issue, and it always comes up during the election years.

It has actually been done in a number of places, and the results are astonishingly consistent: Welfare recipients use illicit drugs at a rate substantially lower than the population over all. In other words, you pissed away lots of taxpayer dollars AGAIN in search of a problem that does not exist.

 

[NatMorton]

This is nothing new. "Testing welfare recipients" has always been a popular campaign issue, and it always comes up during the election years.

It has actually been done in a number of places, and the results are astonishingly consistent: Welfare recipients use illicit drugs at a rate substantially lower than the population over all. In other words, you pissed away lots of taxpayer dollars AGAIN in search of a problem that does not exist.

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What if my problem is an excessive level of taxation?

 

[Stealers Wheel]

What if my problem is an excessive level of taxation?

Then you need to see where your tax dollars are going. Like drug testing people over and over again who don't typically abuse drugs.

 

[NatMorton]

Then you need to see where your tax dollars are going. Like drug testing people over and over again who don't typically abuse drugs.

Or welfare payments, right?

 

[CimpleMan]

If they refuse treatment and no longer receive benefits then the result could be they're on the street. Which we know is a problem for multiple reasons and could be expensive to remedy.

Addiction can be brutal like this. Many, who've never been addicted or never had mental issues have a problem relating to those who have.

 

[jaypatriot]

Odd coming from a liberal stronghold.

Discussion here at DP previously on this testing indicates there isn't much support to test nationally.

"More voters say they support a March ballot measure requiring suspected drug addicts to accept drug tests and treatment to continue getting cash benefits."
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Majority of San Franciscans Support Testing Cash Assistance Recipients for Drug Use: Poll

More voters say they support a March ballot measure requiring suspected drug addicts to accept drug tests and treatment to continue getting cash benefits.

www.theepochtimes.com

Most of San Franciscans support the Forty Niners.
That is a safer conclusion when talking about any other group in that failing city.