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Vietnam will purchase helicopters from the United States for its police force, as Hanoi—historically reliant on Russian weaponry—deepens its partnership with Washington. A Reuters report also stated that Vietnam's Defense Ministry is negotiating with Lockheed Martin over the purchase of C-130 military transport aircraft. Vietnam and the United States—former adversaries during the Vietnam War, which ended in 1975—have been expanding their defense cooperation since Washington lifted its arms sales ban in 2016, after which Hanoi acquired U.S. coast guard vessels and training aircraft. Prior to its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, Russia was a major weapons supplier to Vietnam. However, the Southeast Asian country is now diversifying its arms sources and enhancing domestic weapons production, creating opportunities for American defense firms. Earlier in July, President Donald Trump announced a trade agreement with Vietnam, under which U.S. goods exported to the Vietnamese market will face zero tariffs. Choosing American defense equipment may also help narrow the U.S. trade deficit with Vietnam.
Citing people with knowledge of the talks, Reuters reported on Thursday that Vietnam's Public Security Ministry has agreed to acquire two helicopters from Lockheed Martin as Vietnamese pilots have been training with the U.S. defense giant's S-92 helicopters. According to Lockheed Martin, this type of helicopter is capable of performing a range of missions, including offshore energy transport, search and rescue, and airline operations. A total of 28 countries operate the S-92 helicopter for both civilian and military purposes. In addition to the helicopter deal worth over $100 million, the report stated that Vietnam's Defense Ministry is negotiating with Lockheed Martin over the purchase of C-130 military transport aircraft—designed for airlift missions and currently operated by 23 countries. The U.S.-based defense analysis website 19FortyFive reported in April—citing sources—that Vietnam is expected to buy 24 F-16 fighter jets, also manufactured by Lockheed Martin, to supplement its combat aircraft fleet, which is composed mainly of Russian jets.
Vietnam is actively trying to build up a domestic arms industry. They’ve been close Russian allies for decades, and the idea that a few helicopters would change that is rather silly.Major Russian arms buyer chooses to go American
Vietnam and the U.S. have been expanding their defense partnership since Washington lifted its arms sales ban on Hanoi in 2016.www.newsweek.com
It would be a foreign policy triumph to pry Vietnam away from the Russian orbit.
I think China would never go to war with Viet Nam and Viet Nam trusts China as far as they can throw them.Vietnam is actively trying to build up a domestic arms industry. They’ve been close Russian allies for decades, and the idea that a few helicopters would change that is rather silly.
Egypt, for example, is a case of a U.S. ally who routinely buys Russian equipment. Does that mean they are about to jump ship?
Russia-Vietnam Ties Are Set To Grow Following Lam's Eurasia Tour | RANE
Vietnam is strengthening its relationships with Eurasian countries, especially Russia, as it looks to further diversify economic and energy ties away from great powers amid an unstable geopolitical landscape.worldview.stratfor.com
On the other hand, Vietnam and China have had tense relations for decades ever since the Vietnamese overthrew the Khmer Rouge(much to the U.S.’ fury)
.....China did go to war with Vietnam.Nixon is rolling over in his grave.
I think China would never go to war with Viet Nam and Viet Nam trusts China as far as they can throw them.
Major Russian arms buyer chooses to go American
Vietnam and the U.S. have been expanding their defense partnership since Washington lifted its arms sales ban on Hanoi in 2016.www.newsweek.com
It would be a foreign policy triumph to pry Vietnam away from the Russian orbit.
Gee, their “Russian shit” sure did well against supposedly “best in the world” American planes when put to the test.After seeing so much Russian shit get knocked out of the air by a military that isn't even in the Top 30 over the last couple of years, i'd stay away from their products too.
and lost.........China did go to war with Vietnam.
LOL Russia can't supply any military aid to anyone due to all their own equipment being destroyed by Ukraine. Beside their stuff doesn't work either. The days of Russia selling military equipment are over forever. They can't even supply their own army. Vietnam has been growing weary of Russia for a decade due to their alliance with China who they see as their historic enemy. The enemy of your enemy is your friend and that is the US.Vietnam is actively trying to build up a domestic arms industry. They’ve been close Russian allies for decades, and the idea that a few helicopters would change that is rather silly.
Egypt, for example, is a case of a U.S. ally who routinely buys Russian equipment. Does that mean they are about to jump ship?
Russia-Vietnam Ties Are Set To Grow Following Lam's Eurasia Tour | RANE
Vietnam is strengthening its relationships with Eurasian countries, especially Russia, as it looks to further diversify economic and energy ties away from great powers amid an unstable geopolitical landscape.worldview.stratfor.com
On the other hand, Vietnam and China have had tense relations for decades ever since the Vietnamese overthrew the Khmer Rouge(much to the U.S.’ fury)
Except for the inconvenient fact Ukraine hasn’t even come close to doing anything of the sort.LOL Russia can't supply any military aid to anyone due to all their own equipment being destroyed by Ukraine. Beside their stuff doesn't work either. The days of Russia selling military equipment are over forever. They can't even supply their own army. Vietnam has been growing weary of Russia for a decade due to their alliance with China who they see as their historic enemy. The enemy of your enemy is your friend and that is the US.
I think China would never go to war with Viet Nam
After seeing so much Russian shit get knocked out of the air by a military that isn't even in the Top 30 over the last couple of years, i'd stay away from their products too.
Gee dude, trying to make an assessment of its performance based on the Iraqi military is rather dubious. After all, Iraqi Abrams tanks didn’t perform particularly well against ISIS in those early days either.The performance in use against Ukraine.
The performance against the Coalitions twice against Iraq.
The performance against the US and Israel in Iran.
A hell of a lot of nations are now seriously questioning the actual capabilities of that cheap Russian and Chinese equipment.
You mean the 1979 attack by Chinese troops that killed an estimated 26.000 screaming Chinese before they tucked their tails and ran after one month??!! As I said China will never do it. Lesson learned. China added to the list of countries defeated by Ho Chi The Man Minh. Next?You forget 1979 already?
And air defense systems. Even Iran and Houthis demonstrated our technology isn't infallible.Gee, their “Russian shit” sure did well against supposedly “best in the world” American planes when put to the test.
You mean the 1979 attack by Chinese troops that killed an estimated 26.000 screaming Chinese before they tucked their tails and ran after one month??!!
You are hallucinating. 26,000 invaders killed not to mention wounded stats caused by an invasion. I thought invasions were uniquely planned to succeed but China failed and the Vietnamese achieved their goal. Your logic hedges toward saying America's cowardly abandonment of the southern cowards was an honorable departure.They did not tuck tale. It was a punitive action, and they won every battle they were in. It was not a retreat, they departed in good order just as they invaded.
And you mention 26,000 losses. Western sources for the losses to Vietnam was over 30,000. And almost all of their military inventory including most of their armor and aircraft were also destroyed. Including over 150 F-5 fighters and 200 A-37 ground support fighters. They captured a significant percentage of the South Vietnamese Air Force when they took over in 1975, most of that was destroyed in 1979.
You are hallucinating. 26,000 invaders killed not to mention wounded stats caused by an invasion. I thought invasions were uniquely planned to succeed but China failed and the Vietnamese achieved their goal. Your logic hedges toward saying America's cowardly abandonment of the southern cowards was an honorable departure.
Except for the inconvenient fact that the Chinese invaded to “punish” the Vietnamese for toppling the Khmer Rouge, and their objective of taking pressure off their Cambodian ally was not even remotely accomplished.They did not tuck tale. It was a punitive action, and they won every battle they were in. It was not a retreat, they departed in good order just as they invaded.
And you mention 26,000 losses. Western sources for the losses to Vietnam was over 30,000. And almost all of their military inventory including most of their armor and aircraft were also destroyed. Including over 150 F-5 fighters and 200 A-37 ground support fighters. They captured a significant percentage of the South Vietnamese Air Force when they took over in 1975, most of that was destroyed in 1979.
You are hallucinating. 26,000 invaders killed not to mention wounded stats caused by an invasion. I thought invasions were uniquely planned to succeed but China failed and the Vietnamese achieved their goal. Your logic hedges toward saying America's cowardly abandonment of the southern cowards was an honorable departure.
What do you imagine China's goals were?
I said killedWho said killed? I did not say killed. If you are going to try and turn what I say against me, actually use what I say. Do not make up your own claims then try to put them into my mouth. That is extremely dishonest, and damned close to lying.
To prevent the overthrow of the Cambodian leader by Vietnamese.What do you imagine China's goals were?
To prevent the overthrow of the Cambodian leader by Vietnamese.
Garbage! You think you know what you don't.Oh my dear sweet lord, really? That is what you believe?
Democratic Kampuchea and the Khmer Rouge had already been overthrown in early January 1979.
As I already stated, it was a punitive war. In short it was punishing Vietnam for overthrowing the Khmer Rouge (in addition to multiple border incursions as well as part of the ongoing "Cold War" between the CCP and USSR). Not to prevent the overthrow of Kampuchea from happening, is had already been done.
You really do not know a damned thing about that conflict, that is clearly obvious.
You really should not try to make stuff up and try to pass it off as "real history". Some of us actually do know what happened, and know the timeline. Kinda hard to conduct a war to prevent something that had already happened almost a month before.
I guess you also believe that the US staged their oil embargo against Japan because of Pearl Harbor.
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