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Louisiana 24 Mar 2012

Surprise LA Vote: Santorum crushes Romney 50%-26%. Gingrich disappears: 15%. Paul&&&&


Unless they go out for Fishing ! ...




Otherwise, since Real Conservatives already succeeded to attract a Majority of GOP's Members (see Facts cited above), and people like Santorum are also able to motivate even a lot of former Abstentionists (+ 50% of USA's Population), after the establisment's bureaucrats "killed" the Popular "Values" movement, back on 2008, it will be Easier than spend its Time and Energy in more rigged "Primaries", (and perhaps Better) to Create a New, really Conservative Party in America, (since the old GOP, in such a case, will be condemned to stay out of Power for Decades), ready to Fight and Win for Values !
 
I suspect the game could go all the way to NY and Cali. That will close the deal however.

But the problem is that he has zero chance in NY or Cal unless he wins Wisconsin. Even if he does win Wisconsin, he has only a small chance in NY and still zero chance in Cal.
 
Re: Surprise LA Vote: Santorum crushes Romney 50%-26%. Gingrich disappears: 15%. Paul

Yep! You would be surprised election day when you fine Santorum won the election!

No, but the country needs Santorum to win the nomination so we can finally have that day in court: conservative vs normal candidate. Once the conservative gets trounced then American politics can move to an era of normalcy with diminished extreme partisanship and things will finally get done. If Romney gets the nod and gets trounced, the Republicans will once again have this dangerous fantasy that it was because their candidate wasn't conservative enough... and they will be obsessed with coming up with even bigger whack-a-doos advocating that we return to the 13th century because their 17th century candidate didn't get it done.
 
But the problem is that he has zero chance in NY or Cal unless he wins Wisconsin. Even if he does win Wisconsin, he has only a small chance in NY and still zero chance in Cal.

Depends on who you mean by "he". If Santorum then you are probably correct, and he probably won't get Wisconsin. It's irrelevant to an extent since he simply cannot get enough delegates to win outright. Santorum needs about 800 of the remaining 1100ish delegates(math done in my head and I ain't awake yet, so some wiggle room here, but the point stands), which is for all intents impossible. Romney needs under 600 of those delegates, which is likely. Romney will win NY and Cali, with 260 delegates just between the two.
 
Re: Surprise LA Vote: Santorum crushes Romney 50%-26%. Gingrich disappears: 15%. Paul




You have done a fine job with your analysis of the various trees within the forest. Unfortunately, you are lost in that forest. What you are missing in all of this is where Romney is beating Santorum, which are the urban areas and suburbs and in swing states. In the real battleground areas of the general election, Romney consistently beats Santorum, indicating not only Republican preference in those areas, but a greater likelihood that he could actually win in those areas in a general.

The places where Santorum is beating Romney are irrelevant in the general. The Republicans could run Mickey Mouse (and many of believe they are) in places like Louisiana, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Kansas, Tennessee, Alabama and North Dakota and they would win. The Republicans can also win rural areas no matter who they run. The fact that Romney won New Orleans was probably the real thing item of note in Louisana.. otherwise, it was a meaningless primary. Sorry, the numbers increasingly telling us that Romney is the stronger candidate.

If Santorum cannot win Wisconsin, he is toast. He can't stop Romney from sowing up the nomination prior to Tampa unless he can win Wisconsin.

Pity, as he would be the easiest candidate for Obama to beat in the fall... for many of the reasons articulated herein.
 
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Sorry.. the pronoun "he" refers to Rick Santorum.

No question that Santorum can not win the nomination prior to Tampa. All he can do is prevent Romney from winning it. That won't happen if he loses Wisconsin. This thing is likely over next week.
 
Looks like this damn election may really come down to voting for someone who will severely damage this country from a Governmental stance or vote for someone who will severely damage this country from a Social stance.

Woo...

:Sigh:
 
Re: Surprise LA Vote: Santorum crushes Romney 50%-26%. Gingrich disappears: 15%. Paul


IF I was able to make heads or tails out of that gibberish, we do appear to be on the same page that the alternative to the Republicans putting forth a Conservative candidate this year MAY well be the disolution of the Republican Party and the formation of a much more Conservative and Right-Wing party and the absorbtion of the more moderate Republicans into the Democratic Party.
 
Re: Surprise LA Vote: Santorum crushes Romney 50%-26%. Gingrich disappears: 15%. Paul


The exact reason that we all need to have Santorum win the nomination: so we have this out right now. If Romney wins nomination but not the WH, the Conservatives will be championing the idea that they did not put up a conservative enough candidate. We will get four more years of dysfunctional non-sense. If Santorum wins the nomination but not the WH, then we can all return to rationality and we can once again have rational, bi-partisian work on the nation's business. This conservative thing has been out of control for far too long. Its time to put the myth to bed. Go Rick!
 
Re: Surprise LA Vote: Santorum crushes Romney 50%-26%. Gingrich disappears: 15%. Paul


Not at all. A Romney loss will create a total split in the party. There will likely be either a total re-envisioning of the party or a brand new party coming out of a Romney nomination and loss. A Romney WIN might be about the only thing more damaging because it will force Conservatives to fight both major parties. A Santorum loss simply pushes the Conservatives to give up on politics entirely and move on to the idea of violent revolution against the Government.
 
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