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Why not a few up front questions to the obsessed :
Well, If dealing only with Americans and assuming they are 18 or better - How Many Supported & Voted for Ron Paul ????
I think he had 2 delegates to the RNC in 2008. He did get almost 10 percent in the Iowa caucus but it should be noted that some GOP heavyweights skipped the caucus all together. He got as much support as he deserves, minimal.
I meant what percent of those Truthers who are American were fully for Paul ????? I think it was a good 25% personally.
The conventional wisdom is that you can vote for different people on election day:
Candidate A
Candidate B
None of the Above
Vote with your TV Remote and stay home.
My guess is that for 100% of truthers there is no A&B.
In the GOP Primaries they were for Paul. Some were Ex or current Larouchies. Paul knew they were there and engaging in disproportinate tactics. Let me add that I have substantial doubts about his son Rand Paul (also a Doctor) running in Kentucky this year. He may be losing his once Big lead as more & more see thru him.
1) Were 4 Planes actually hijacked that day??
2) Were the Hijackers part of Al Queda ??
3) Did 3 of the 4 planes get to their intended targets ??
4) Did any high person in the US Government know in advance that Thousands would die that day??
5) Did anyone delibertly permit NY Firemen to enter the Towers knowing they would not get out in time??
6) Was anyone of this staged to either get the US (and the West) into a War, to manipulate the Markets or to diminish our Liberties at home.
Why use planes at all ... ???
Why would the US need an excuse to go to war ... as the FIRST Gulf War and history showed America did NOT need an excuse this good ???
Oh, it's all about the Spectre of 9/11 - How unique an outlook.
Grim Reality IS that SOME look for any excuse to go off into Never Never Land and accuse mysterious forces of things that sometimes can be easily explained by Government underestimating the determination of the Wicked , and incompetence and Dumb Luck.
BTW - LH Oswald killed JFK. He had a Good day . He was underestimated by most and he slipped away for awhile.
Okay - Start another deluge - WHAT is the Larger Issue(??)
The larger issue is who orchestrated the events that put Oswald in a position to shoot JFK and ultimately cover up the CIA/Cuban exile/mafia connections that exist. By larger issue I mean the people who were behind the event, not the person who actually did the deed.
Why not cut to the Chase . Roughly how old are you and do YOU think the 1992 Oliver Stne Movie "JFK" is credible ??
Why not cut to the Chase . Roughly how old are you and do YOU think the 1992 Oliver Stne Movie "JFK" is credible ??
Why not a few up front questions to the obsessed : 1) Were 4 Planes actually hijacked that day?? 2) Were the Hijackers part of Al Queda ?? 3) Did 3 of the 4 planes get to their intended targets ?? 4) Did any high person in the US Government know in advance that Thousands would die that day?? 5) Did anyone delibertly permit NY Firemen to enter the Towers knowing they would not get out in time?? 6) Was anyone of this staged to either get the US (and the West) into a War, to manipulate the Markets or to diminish our Liberties at home.
Hey, give him credit...he at least admits that Oswald shot JFK. I'm sure there is some sort of enormous conspiracy involving Jewish bankers but heck; most conspiracy believers won't cop to that self-evident truth.
The problem is as time passes they get believed by those too young at the time of the Big Events to really think objectively in some cases. Oliver Stone's success with "JFK" should easily show how gullible 2 generations later can be.
Oh, it's all about the Spectre of 9/11 - How unique an outlook. It's like the Doubters had this Mega Event forced upon them.
Grim Reality IS that SOME look for any excuse to go off into Never Never Land and accuse mysterious forces of things that sometimes can be easily explained by Government underestimating the determination of the Wicked , and incompetence and Dumb Luck.
BTW - LH Oswald killed JFK. He had a Good day . He was underestimated by most and he slipped away for awhile.
I don't know if it's unique, but an event like that can get the people to give up a great deal far more easily and it makes for a good rallying cry.
The grim reality is that government is far less idiotic than people think. When one considers that government is far from the only party involved the "idiocy" argument flies out the window.
Who shot the bullet that killed JFK is quite irrelevant to the larger issue.
The larger issue is who orchestrated the events that put Oswald in a position to shoot JFK and ultimately cover up the CIA/Cuban exile/mafia connections that exist. By larger issue I mean the people who were behind the event, not the person who actually did the deed.
I don't see any indication that bankers were involved at all, let alone Jewish ones. The strongest evidence pertains to Cuban exile groups, the CIA, and the mafia.
I don't think that film was even remotely influential in getting people to believe in a conspiracy.
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