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Lies and the Republicans

Luckyone

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The reality is that Trump is the biggest liar that ever existed in the White House. Over 5000 lies so far and counting at the tune 16 per day. He is now the most non-believable President that has ever existed. What is worse, is that most of the Republicans (especially the House and the Senate) condone and support, as well as repeat, his lies.

When Trump was running for office he promised that he would defend Social Security and Medicare and even a few days ago (on Wednesday) he said the following:

“We’re saving Social Security. The Democrats will destroy Social Security. We’re saving Medicare. The Democrats want to destroy Medicare. …We will keep it going. We’re making it stronger. We’re making Social Security stronger.”

Is he really doing it?

THE FACTS: Trump hasn’t made Medicare and Social Security stronger.

The government’s annual trustees reports on the programs released in June shows the financial condition of both worsening significantly since last year. The projected insolvency for Social Security stayed unchanged — in 2034 — but Medicare’s moved three years closer, to 2026.

In addition, after instituting a $1.5 trillion tax cut favoring the rich and signing off on a $675 billion budget for the Department of Defense, Senate Majority Leader McConnell said on Tuesday of this week "the only way to lower the record-high federal deficit would be to cut entitlement programs like Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security."

Two months ago, the Trump administration said it won't defend central provisions of the Affordable Care Act, saying in a legal filing Thursday night that key parts of the Affordable Care Act should be invalidated and that the individual mandate is unconstitutional. The provisions DOJ says should be invalidated are central to the ACA and would gut protections for those with pre-existing conditions.

Once again, Trump lies about helping people get Health Insurance that will be cheaper, better and that will protect those with pre-existing conditions.

Lies and more lies.

Trump accuses the Democrats of being angry mobs but then again all they are doing is using their Constitutional right to peacefully protest against losing their Health insurance, their voting rights (suppression happening in all Trump held states, such as Georgia), the ability of families to stay together and the lies that prevent justice from being done. They are protesting the increased risk that is brought upon us by Trump supporting (and trying to turn us into) autocrats and dictators.

How can anyone support a pathological liar given the he lies all the time and lies to his own benefit.

Just yesterday it was found out that Trump was personally involved in blocking the move of the FBI headquarters out of Washington to the suburbs. He said it was to save the government money and that the FBI leadership did not want to move. It was a big lie. He was personally involved in blocking the move as it is something that financially helps Trump himself.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/18/politics/trump-fbi-building/index.html

Lies, lies, and more lies and mostly to help himself and his rich cronies.

The swamp has never been swampier than under Trump.

He is defrauding the American people and he is lying about it and his supporters believe him. What could be worse?
 
This is what a mountebank does. Specious rhetoric has proven to be successful during a campaign. Candidates and incumbents have figured out that just saying it without any intention of follow thru garners votes.

IMO
 
Trump is the smartest man in the world! Highest IQ ever! Liberals are mad that they aren't smart enough. Sad!

#MAGA2020
 
TDS rant number 1000 and going.

the FBI building move has already been discussed. It had nothing to do with trump.
The GSA bid and everything else on the building before trump even became president
was all over the place. it was misbid and already running into major cost over-runs.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gs...ims-that-trump-intervened-to-stop-fbi-hq-move

and as usual CNN is fake news. go figure on that one.

In a written statement, the GSA said that "the leadership team at the FBI made the decision to keep its headquarters at the current Pennsylvania Avenue location. A number of emails referenced in today’s congressional letter are taken out of context and refer to the project's funding approach, not the location decision.

"Suggestions that those emails indicate presidential involvement in the location decision are inaccurate," the statement added.

Connelly is playing politics because he is missing out on millions of dollars in investments he has made.
as for some reason his district is supposedly one of the new spots.

There are other issues with the building move as it was planned mostly due to poor funding planning from the GSA.
 

The individual mandate is unconstitutional. Nothing in the constitution gives the government the power to force people to buy a product.
it simply doesn't exist and you have to be 100% dishonest to say that it is covered under the commerce clause.

Roberts gross reading of the tax law is the only way that passed but the obama administration declared time and time again that it wasn't a tax.
therefore it shouldn't have been passed by the tax provision.

it was one of the worst rulings on the SCOTUS.
 
TheGoverness said:
Trump is the smartest man in the world! Highest IQ ever! Liberals are mad that they aren't smart enough. Sad!

#MAGA2020
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Not by far is he the smartest man in the world, but you are right liberals are mad that they simply can't outsmart him.
 

Why are you keying on the building (which is the comment of least importance) and not keying on the other lies that affect Americans and their Health a lot more? Is this an attempt to prove that if there is one mis-truth than the other more important ones are mis-truths as well?

Ludin, do you have a mother, a grandmother, children? Are you not worried about Health Insurance? If not, does that mean you don't care about the Health Insurance of others?
 
ludin said:
Not by far is he the smartest man in the world, but you are right liberals are mad that they simply can't outsmart him.
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No, it is not about out-smarting him. It is about out-lying him and I must admit that out-lying him is very difficult as he is the best I have seen at lying in my lifetime.
 

Yes i have a mother, all of my grandparents are dead.
No i am not worried about health insurance i have good health insurance as long as the government keeps their nose out of it.
i addressed the healthcare issue in another post.
 
Luckyone said:
No, it is not about out-smarting him. It is about out-lying him and I must admit that out-lying him is very difficult as he is the best I have seen at lying in my lifetime.
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Trump is all about RESULTS. He is the best.

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ludin said:
Yes i have a mother, all of my grandparents are dead.
No i am not worried about health insurance i have good health insurance as long as the government keeps their nose out of it.
i addressed the healthcare issue in another post.
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I know what you mean, it's ruff out here. I tried to opt-out from contributing to the $26 billion for 2 $9 billion aircraft carries or $1.9 trillion
for the $1.3 trillion F-35 program but no, the IRS said buck up MoFo.
 
ludin said:
Yes i have a mother, all of my grandparents are dead.
No i am not worried about health insurance i have good health insurance as long as the government keeps their nose out of it.
i addressed the healthcare issue in another post.
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I am happy that you have good health insurance. Do you ever think about the health insurance of others or do you simply not care because you are covered.
 
Eriech said:
Trump is all about RESULTS. He is the best.

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Results and he is the best?

You are qualifying that from an economic basis right?

In Unity, support for entire populace, morally, ethically, and humanity wise, he is not only failing but the worst possible.

Evidently, the only important thing to you is money, right?

I do wish you the best but have you ever considered that the debt and the deficit is likely to affect in the near future your ability to earn an income? There is a price to pay for everything, are you aware of that? Will you be happy if the economic positive dries up and is replaced with a deep recession or depression in a couple of years, just like in 2008? Does a short-term boon that is then replaced with a long-term malady what you want?
 
Actually money has never really been that important to me. What is important is family and opportunity.

Boom will be short term if Pelosi, Schumer get their way.

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Eriech said:
Actually money has never really been that important to me. What is important is family and opportunity.

Boom will be short term if Pelosi, Schumer get their way.

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Family and opportunity eh?

If family is really important to you, aren't we all a family in the United States (including Democrats)? Or is family to you simply those family members that agree with you?

Most families have someone that doesn't agree and is somewhat ostracized by the family, do you have someone like that? Is he ostracized by you as well, or do you still consider him family?

We have been a "family" for 240 years, are you saying you want a divorce?
 
Luckyone said:
I am happy that you have good health insurance. Do you ever think about the health insurance of others or do you simply not care because you are covered.
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The government is not capable of doing health insurance. They have proven that time and time again.
So honestly if you care about your health and the health of others as you claim that you do; then you would not advocate for
government run of anything regarding your healthcare.
 
Luckyone said:
No, it is not about out-smarting him. It is about out-lying him and I must admit that out-lying him is very difficult as he is the best I have seen at lying in my lifetime.
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Correction: He is not good at lying, he's simply prolific and shameless. He buries us in lies and general BS. That is #MAGA!
 
ludin said:
Not by far is he the smartest man in the world, but you are right liberals are mad that they simply can't outsmart him.
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It must be frustrating to be beaten soundly over and over by a "stupid" individual.

Establishment, extremes, and deep staters on all sides have been having an aneurysm for 2 years and counting. It is good that we see them openly advocating for violence and trashing a near 200 years tradition of jurisprudence for a short term "win".
 
<alt>doxygen said:
Correction: He is not good at lying, he's simply prolific and shameless. He buries us in lies and general BS. That is #MAGA!
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As the many firings and retractions indicate.. The main stream media is right in there....
 

Well, at least for the past 8 years there have been an additional 20 million that got Health Insurance that would not have been able to do it otherwise, so go ahead and tell those people that they should give up their health care because "the government cannot run anything regarding healthcare". Oh, I forgot, a good portion of those 20 million would not be able to say anything given that they probably would have died if it wasn't for Obamacare. They actually owe their lives to the Government Health Care. I wonder how much a life is actually worth...........perhaps you can put a value on it?

I wonder if dying was what they would have chosen 8 years ago if they would have asked?

Anyhow, show me one single program that is privately owned (not a government program) that covers pre-existing conditions and is affordable..........one?
 
I want everyone in my American family to have opportunity.
Democrats fear unity. Their power relies on identity politics and dependence.


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the thing with the election of trump is that the nutjobs in washington have been now forced out in the open.
we knew they were nutjobs before but they could just hide in the weeds.

now they are out in full force and we can see how mentally unstable these people really are.
for as much as they howl about trump being unfit for service they for some reason do not include their own mental unfitness.
 

Dead on. The curtain has been pulled back and the roaches are running to hide from the sunlight.
 

Most can't use it because they can't afford the deductibles. BS the death argument. No they don't owe their lives. your post is nothing more than an appeal to emotion fallacy.
The ones on the expanded medicaid are having issues finding doctors to take it.

obamacare has been a failure. Premium prices have increased every year since it was in acted. people so 20-40% premium increases per year.
some saw even more some saw 1000% increase in their insurance.

the whole point of obamacare was to bankrupt the system. so they could claim a crisis.
they lied about the bill.

He suggested that many lawmakers and voters didn't know what was in the law or how its financing worked, and that this helped it win approval.

"Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,” Gruber said. "And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical for the thing to pass."

Gruber made the comment while discussing how the law was "written in a tortured way" to avoid a bad score from the Congressional Budget Office. He suggested that voters would have rejected ObamaCare if the penalties for going without health insurance were interpreted as taxes, either by budget analysts or the public.

I wonder if dying was what they would have chosen 8 years ago if they would have asked?

Anyhow, show me one single program that is privately owned (not a government program) that covers pre-existing conditions and is affordable..........one?
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health insurance should work as car insurance. The more unhealthy you are you pay slightly more for your insurance just like you pay more for car insurance if you are a bad driver.
next insurance should be reserved for those hopsital situations.

I am all for a system similar to singapore.

where everyone has a HSA. the government issues a 1 time yearly credit that would cover the deductible.
you shop around for your healthcare services with cash which is 80-90% cheaper than insurance in most cases.

the only time you use insurance is if you need surgery get cancer etc ...

next increase the amount of doctors allowed to graduate to meet the demand.
this would allow for more doctors to enter GP. in fact i would have it so that doctors that spend 5 years in GP
pay 0 tuition vs specialists.

there are ways to fix the system without government sticking it's nose involved, but it takes thinking outside the box.
 
Eriech said:
I want everyone in my American family to have opportunity.
Democrats fear unity. Their power relies on identity politics and dependence.


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You have that so backwards I don't even know where to start.
You say some of us suffer from TDS Trump Derangement Syndrome. I think many suffer from Trump Delusional Syndrome.
He does everything he can to divide this country and keep his base stirred up. The lies coming out of his mouth are absolutely astounding - Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell and the rest are now trying to play catch-up.
It is now the Dem's fault that we have such a deficit and they want to cut Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. Taking children from their parents in the name of keeping people out of the country. Five y.o.'s have to go to court. Alone.
The GOP openly wants to throw millions of people off of health care. They want to repeal the law that said insurance companies had to insure everyone without regard to pre-existing conditions. Did you know pregnancy could be considered a pre-existing condition??
Democrats fear unity. Who is it that fears diversity?? Uh...........how many women do you see in the GOP?? How many POC?? Look at the pictures of White House staff. You see much color in there???
Please stop drinking the Kool-Aid.
 
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