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Liberalism Is Yesterday's News

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I think a lot of liberals are recognizing they've lost touch with the average American voter. I don't know why it has taken so long but Trump's win may have finally shaken them up. The Democrat narrative was soundly rejected.

Liberalism's Exhaustion​

For years, I and many others have been warning liberals and progressives who defined themselves by embracing identity politics over material economic concerns, by touting America and Americans as the root of all evil, by portraying themselves as the occupiers of “the right side of history,” and who smeared those who didn’t buy into their program as ignorant, racist wretches.

We’ve been warning them: Keep at it, and your political base is going to shift out from under your feet. The “wretches”—some of whom used to be Democrats—are going to take their votes and their campaign contributions elsewhere. The “people of color” who you run to with your hand out every two years are going to realize you have nothing to offer in return except the hollow claim that “the other guys are worse.” We said, if you don’t rethink your political program, it will be the end of you.

This election may not mark the end for the Democratic Party, but I don’t think anyone can look at the results and say I was wrong. To be sure, there are many factors contributing to Trump’s win. Alienation from the Democratic Party can’t account for all of his success. But it may account for the narrow difference between a win and a loss.

And yet, what do we see in the aftermath? We see Nancy Pelosi, in an interview with the New York Times Magazine, refusing to admit that her party had any hand in its own defeat. We see angry progressives blaming the wretches for rejecting the party that has done nothing but mock them. We see very little of the soul-searching that one would expect among party leaders after losing two branches of the government in one election. In this clip, Daniel Bessner argues that the Democrats’ failure is a sign of liberalism’s exhaustion. It has, he says, nothing left to offer. I don’t know if he’s right about that. But if Kamala Harris is the best the Democrats can do, he’s not wrong.



 
I think a lot of liberals are recognizing they've lost touch with the average American voter. I don't know why it has taken so long but Trump's win may have finally shaken them up. The Democrat narrative was soundly rejected.

Liberalism's Exhaustion​

For years, I and many others have been warning liberals and progressives who defined themselves by embracing identity politics over material economic concerns, by touting America and Americans as the root of all evil, by portraying themselves as the occupiers of “the right side of history,” and who smeared those who didn’t buy into their program as ignorant, racist wretches.

We’ve been warning them: Keep at it, and your political base is going to shift out from under your feet. The “wretches”—some of whom used to be Democrats—are going to take their votes and their campaign contributions elsewhere. The “people of color” who you run to with your hand out every two years are going to realize you have nothing to offer in return except the hollow claim that “the other guys are worse.” We said, if you don’t rethink your political program, it will be the end of you.

This election may not mark the end for the Democratic Party, but I don’t think anyone can look at the results and say I was wrong. To be sure, there are many factors contributing to Trump’s win. Alienation from the Democratic Party can’t account for all of his success. But it may account for the narrow difference between a win and a loss.

And yet, what do we see in the aftermath? We see Nancy Pelosi, in an interview with the New York Times Magazine, refusing to admit that her party had any hand in its own defeat. We see angry progressives blaming the wretches for rejecting the party that has done nothing but mock them. We see very little of the soul-searching that one would expect among party leaders after losing two branches of the government in one election. In this clip, Daniel Bessner argues that the Democrats’ failure is a sign of liberalism’s exhaustion. It has, he says, nothing left to offer. I don’t know if he’s right about that. But if Kamala Harris is the best the Democrats can do, he’s not wrong.




Elections go back and forth, as long as your side isn't rigging them. If we struggle to get back in power in 2026, it's going to be at least partly due to right-wing vote-rigging and gerrymandering.
 
The margin was 3%. The Democrat was narrowly rejected. Liberalism is something else, and that can't be determined by the election.

The voting of nearly 90% of U.S. counties moved to the political right in this election, and Trump won the popular vote by 3,000,000 votes.
 
The voting of nearly 90% of U.S. counties moved to the political right in this election, and Trump won the popular vote by 3,000,000 votes.

Congratulations. I hope you enjoy the second tRump recession. (y)
 
The voting of nearly 90% of U.S. counties moved to the political right in this election, and Trump won the popular vote by 3,000,000 votes.
I know what the statistics are. The margin was 3%. That's a narrow margin in anyone's book.

The election doesn't tell us about liberalism. That can be found in polls. Arizona saw a progressive beat a MAGA. Everyone here won reelection as the incumbent, down to the city council.

It's not a big shift.
 
I think a lot of liberals are recognizing they've lost touch with the average American voter. I don't know why it has taken so long but Trump's win may have finally shaken them up. The Democrat narrative was soundly rejected.

Except where it wasn't, like the Senate races across most of the swing states, or on abortion referendums across the country.

I wonder what's going to happen to all of these narratives if the Dems sweep the midterms.
 
Voters swing a lot on personalities, so I don't think this article is entirely correct. If this election had been say Obama vs Trump I am pretty sure Obama would have won. Harris wasn't a strong candidate because she is a little hard to relate to. She definitely improved in that regard through the campaign, but relatability was never going to be her strong point. For the bulk of voters who don't really study policy very hard, this is a key voting criteria. Trump of course is just the opposite (for many) with his larger than life personality. I do suspect though that the Dems need to take a good hard look at their positions on immigration and maybe a couple of less significant policies as well.
 
I know what the statistics are. The margin was 3%. That's a narrow margin in anyone's book.

The election doesn't tell us about liberalism. That can be found in polls. Arizona saw a progressive beat a MAGA. Everyone here won reelection as the incumbent, down to the city council.

It's not a big shift.

It's a big shift.
 
I glanced over the Wikipedia page on 'Liberalism' (which must be 15 pages long) and I don't recognize the modern-day Democrat as such.
 
I glanced over the Wikipedia page on 'Liberalism' (which must be 15 pages long) and I don't recognize the modern-day Democrat as such.

I thought righties shunned Wikipedia. Did something change?
 
I glanced over the Wikipedia page on 'Liberalism' (which must be 15 pages long) and I don't recognize the modern-day Democrat as such.
Well, no, given the surreal cartoon worldview of the average MAGA, I don't imagine you would.
 
I think a lot of liberals are recognizing they've lost touch with the average American voter. I don't know why it has taken so long but Trump's win may have finally shaken them up. The Democrat narrative was soundly rejected.

Liberalism's Exhaustion​


Liberalism != Democrat

Trumpian populism is liberal. Republicans are liberal. Definitions are important.
 
MAGAs are really desperate to sell the narrative that this election was a gigantic referendum. Notice that?
They are acting like spoiled children. It's Christmas morning, they got the present they really wanted but are still dissatisfied and have this weird compulsion to sit around and jeer at their siblings.
 
I think a lot of liberals are recognizing they've lost touch with the average American voter. I don't know why it has taken so long but Trump's win may have finally shaken them up. The Democrat narrative was soundly rejected.

Liberalism's Exhaustion​

For years, I and many others have been warning liberals and progressives who defined themselves by embracing identity politics over material economic concerns, by touting America and Americans as the root of all evil, by portraying themselves as the occupiers of “the right side of history,” and who smeared those who didn’t buy into their program as ignorant, racist wretches.

We’ve been warning them: Keep at it, and your political base is going to shift out from under your feet. The “wretches”—some of whom used to be Democrats—are going to take their votes and their campaign contributions elsewhere. The “people of color” who you run to with your hand out every two years are going to realize you have nothing to offer in return except the hollow claim that “the other guys are worse.” We said, if you don’t rethink your political program, it will be the end of you.

This election may not mark the end for the Democratic Party, but I don’t think anyone can look at the results and say I was wrong. To be sure, there are many factors contributing to Trump’s win. Alienation from the Democratic Party can’t account for all of his success. But it may account for the narrow difference between a win and a loss.

And yet, what do we see in the aftermath? We see Nancy Pelosi, in an interview with the New York Times Magazine, refusing to admit that her party had any hand in its own defeat. We see angry progressives blaming the wretches for rejecting the party that has done nothing but mock them. We see very little of the soul-searching that one would expect among party leaders after losing two branches of the government in one election. In this clip, Daniel Bessner argues that the Democrats’ failure is a sign of liberalism’s exhaustion. It has, he says, nothing left to offer. I don’t know if he’s right about that. But if Kamala Harris is the best the Democrats can do, he’s not wrong.



https://www.monroepadems.com/democratic-party-achievements (JJUST A SMALL REMINDER....)
 
The voting of nearly 90% of U.S. counties moved to the political right in this election, and Trump won the popular vote by 3,000,000 votes.
BS !

1.8%, less than 2.7 million votes presently, as the counting continues.

7 billionaires contributed $850 million to Trump’s effort to “sanewash” away the disqualifiers that are ignored by the least educated states’ voting majorities. Trump won the ten least educated with 28.0% average earned bachelor’s degrees. % of degrees of the voters of 18 out of 19 of highest educated states that voted for Harris is 40.73%.
 
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Yeah and after 2008 a lot of us liberals thought we had just witnessed the collapse of the right wing in America.

Trust me. The Pendulum swings.

You think it's stopped swinging to the right? You may be in for a shock.
 
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