FinnMacCool said:Anav your avatar sucks.
ANAV said:Remember when Slick Willy pardoned 140 convicted people (including his own brother) before leaving office? Clinton essentially said "I don't care if these people where convicted by a court of law. The justice system messed up." I say Bush should pardon Libby if he gets convicted by this Democratic witch hunt. Just to hear the Democrats whine would be priceless.
http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pardonchartlst.htm
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/stories/01/20/clinton.pardon/
Here are a few of the more high profile Clinton pardons;
Roger Clinton, who was convicted of drug-related charges in the 1980s. He was sentenced to two years in prison after pleading guilty in 1985 to conspiring to distribute cocaine. He cooperated with authorities and testified against other drug defendants.
Henry Cisneros, who served as secretary of Housing and Urban Development during Clinton's first term in office. He was convicted of making false statements to FBI agents conducting a background investigation of him when he was nominated to the Cabinet post in 1993. They included misleading investigators about cash payments he made to a former mistress.
-- Former CIA Director John Deutch. The one-time spy chief and top Pentagon official was facing criminal charges in connection with his mishandling of national secrets on a home compute
-- Susan McDougal, a former real estate business partner of the Clintons. She was sentenced in 1996 and released from prison in 1998. She was convicted of four felonies related to a fraudulent $300,000 federally backed loan that she and her husband, James McDougal, never repaid. One tenth of the loan amount was placed briefly in the name of Whitewater Development, the Arkansas real estate venture of the Clintons and the McDougals. Her attorney, Mark Geragos, said he remains hopeful that she would be pardoned, refusing to say whether he has received any indication from the White House that she would be pardoned. She was incarcerated for 21 months.
dragonslayer said:All the pointless Rhetoric written above does not change the fact that Bush, Cheney, Delay, and Rove belong in prison. All of us Good Fascist Neo conservative know that. Any one would be better in any branch of our government than us Neo Cons. Up with Profits, greed, the national debt, and tto hell with the poor and needy.
We should pardon Libby and aim our sights at Bush, Cheney, and Rove.
they belong in prison.
ANAV said:If Libby is convicted of a crime I think he should do the time. I believe no one person should have the authority to overturn a conviction (with the exception of the Judge who oversaw the proceedings).
ANAV said:To date 2,700 presidential pardons have been given since the Nixon administration.
ANAV said:(Nixon received one himself from Ford). And all presidents have exercised this abuse of power.
www.google.com is handy for double-checking what people say.Above you claimed to have knowledge of "since the nixon administration". Let me guess. You're also a neo-historian?
Binary_Digit said:I agree with ANAV. Libby should do the time if found guilty, but it's only fair if Bush decides to pardon him. The privelage should be taken away from all presidents if at all, but not selectively.
www.google.com is handy for double-checking what people say.
Richard Nixon - 926
Gerald Ford - 409
Jimmy Carter - 566
Ronald Reagan - 406
George Bush - 77
Bill Clinton - 456
Total - 2840
http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/pardonspres1.htm
EDIT: Sorry Archon, I just noticed you were only addressing the bolded part of ANAV's quote. According to my link, 39 out of 42 presidents have used the pardon. Almost all of them, anyway.
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