CanadianGuy
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CanadianGuy said:Though I'm sure many of you don't care but Canada has legalized gay marriage. It happened a few weeks back but what do you guys think? Is it going to affect the US and/or the rest of the world? What do you think will happen to the Canadian society?
Kelzie said:I give it 10 years tops before it's legal in the US.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it already legal in all the provinces?
CanadianGuy said:May I ask why homosexuals are so againest civil union and want to fight the preachers of god? Why are they religious if they are told by their preists they should not marry each other? And if they are not why do they want to be married? Marriage is a union in the eyes of god. There is no point for non-religious folk to be married they can just have a civil union.
Naughty Nurse said:In the UK heterosexuals can have a marriage ceremony that is completely non-religious, and it is still called marriage. Why should we gay people not do the same?
Oh, and there are many gay Christians who would like a religious marriage ceremony.
CanadianGuy said:Yes a marriage ceremony but it is still a civil union and not in the eyes of god. Why would gay Christians want to be married if "the teachers of God" do not want them to!
CanadianGuy said:Really so this god is in your head on talks to you constantly? lol
I only trust what the teachers of my god tell me because I do not know more then they do and truly I doubt you do as well.
*oh and sorry about the first comment I just had to say it
Urethra Franklin said:It was also recently legalised in Spain.
What will happen to society? It will become more tolerant as it embraces this enormous step forward in the fight for equality and human rights. I believe most other European societies will follow suit. As for the US, you've got the bible bashing fundamentalists to deal with, so it may be more difficult for justice to win through. Where there's religion, there's often hate (witness the recent hanging in Iran of two gay teenagers for the "crime" of homosexuality). When you hear fundamentamist christians ranting on, they don't sound too far behind that, which is pretty scary.
I was actually in Spain a couple of weeks ago when the first gay couple got married. The were shown on the news and they looked very happy. They've been together 20 odd years and they looked a picture of contentment and comittment. What on earth is wrong with love??? I will never get the christian mentality that preaches love but practises hate.
CanadianGuy said:What are you babiling about. I am very confused you dare not making a ppoint at all. :roll:
Truth_be_told said:I can immediately tell from your opinion that you dislike Christians - doesn't that illustrate part of our problem in today's society. First, tell me one Christian that has said they hate gays - there are none. In fact almost every Christian I know supports a loving relationship. This is an issue over the definition of marriage. Currently gays can have a loving relationship with all of the same rights as a married couple. The word marriage is simply a religious term that defines the union between a man and a women for the purposes of having children - should they choose - but they don't necessarily have to have children. Christians do not wish to lose this term for many heartfelt reasons - none of which has anything to do with taking away the rights of a gay couple. Two men or two women who decide to form a loving union (so as not to confuse the definition for children in schools) should be something such as Civil Union - but they would still have the same rights as any married couple. Just so you know - many gays understand this aurgument and have never supported the redefinition of marriage. They also realize that there is tremendous confusion over this issue which is what the social activist wants. They would never stop at anything less than redefining marriage because they wish to change the books in schools, etc, etc.
Kelzie said:Let me spell it out for you.
Your god says gay people can't marry.
My god says gay people can marry.
Why is your god better than mine? He/she's not! Stop letting your god tell you how to live, and think for yourself.
Kelzie said:I've always wondered, if Christians really think that marriage is a religious term that defines a union between a man and a woman, why don't you have any problem with athiests getting married?
And my god says that marriage is a union between two adults who love each other. Why is yours correct?
CanadianGuy said:Still babiling and what is this other god you speak of? Did he appear in your vegetables?
Kelzie said:What is this god you are babbling about? Some vengeful god that has a problem if two adults love each other? Yeah, sign me up. :roll:
CanadianGuy said:Oh my your using this fake reference over and over again. and the definition of marriage is between a man and a woman just check the dictionary. How is it not a religious term?
Kelzie said:Dude, did you notice how I quoted Truth be told's post? The definition was almost verbatim the one he gave. I certainly didn't come up with this religious hogwash.
Here's a dictionary definition from Encarta:
mar·riage [ márrij ] (plural mar·riages)
noun
1. legal relationship between spouses: a legally recognized relationship, established by a civil or religious ceremony, between two people who intend to live together as sexual and domestic partners
2. specific marriage relationship: a married relationship between two people, or a somebody's relationship with his or her spouse
They have a happy marriage.
3. joining in wedlock: the joining together in wedlock of two people
4. marriage ceremony: the ceremony in which two people are joined together formally in wedlock
5. union of two things: a close union, blend, or mixture of two things
Civilization is based on the marriage of tradition and innovation.
Huh...I don't see man and woman anywhere in there...
CanadianGuy said:Where did you get these definitons? Just go to dictionary.com and the first definition is: "The legal union of a man and woman as husband and wife."
CanadianGuy said:Ok. But you have amade up religion so go make achurch and marry off all the gays you want I'm fine with that but stay out of mine!
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