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Just speculating but I figure the thing about not allowing her to have another child is her father and others not wanting her to be unavailable for performances, thus impacting the estates bottom line.I do wonder what's in the medical records that caused such a strict ruling back then. She can't do much of anything without another adult telling her that it's okay.
Eco, you're being intentionally obtuse.
She wants control over her finances, the ability to go where she pleases, see who she wants, the ability for someone she knows or is in a relationship with to transport her somewhere, the ability to make medical decisions (IUD, which anti-depressant medications to take and their dosages), and whether or not to have a child.
These are central to bodily and human autonomy. Do your beliefs in liberal democracy just go away because of a cynical and medically inaccurate view of disability?
What do I have to go on here? She wants a "ride with her boyfriend" and "a baby". So she's making the demands of a 14 year old without a future. That seems healthy to you?
And as always, iLOL at yours. The difference being that my laughter at your posts is well warranted while yours is just deflective nonsense.
I did not answer for him and I certainly did not prevent him from answering.
What I also did not do that you did, is assume. Which is something you and all those who do so, need to stop doing.
She sounds like a human adult.
She sounds like a 14 year old that wants out of an abusive household. "I just wanna be with my boyfriend and have a baby."
That is not a healthy adult.
A lot of people are obsessed with having a baby. They keep fertility specialists in business.Only crazy people claim their life goal is to have a baby. There's not a person outside an institution claiming that as their life goal. Well, some haven't been captured yet.
A lot of people are obsessed with having a baby. They keep fertility specialists in business.
A healthy, 30-40 something adult doesn't want to get out of their house, have a romantic relationship, and maybe have a child?
She sounds like a 14 year old that wants out of an abusive household. "I just wanna be with my boyfriend and have a baby."
That is not a healthy adult.
They have other goals. Career, education, hobbies, interests. You cannot compare someone who has a ride with their boyfriend and has a baby in the course of life with someone who that is their only stated goals.
If someone says, "I gotta be free because I need a Big Mac!!!!!"
Do you argue, "well, who doesn't want a Big Mac?"
No. Can you see why.
I have to disagree. I have no idea what her mental records hold and cleary she had a giant issue years back, which kicked this whole thing in to begin with. I've not read the fine print details but it sounds like she doesn't even come close to having the freedom of a 14 year old and nowhere close to a 40 year old. I think there should be an entirely new look at her mental state, as well as how her money is being handled. Kind of hard to be healthy when you're being robbed of your own life.
You were told how all-inclusive the conservatorship was, you're a PhD who talks about power dynamics a lot, was shoveled a ton of things this person wanted to be able to do on their own...but you're going to ignore everything you could read about the case in order to keep up with your gripe either about the famous person or that they have a disability?
I'm a PhC candidate, Interdisciplinary Ecology with a specialization in Gender.
I'm arguing that Britney has failed to present a convincing case to the public (I'm not an officer of the court or a member of the agreement). I've given my opinion. It's a thread on the internet.
I'll grant "crazy person boss" was a touch over the line, but that's what made it funny.
Where do you get that idea from the post you quoted?Do you people let a committee decide if you have a child or something?
I'm just baffled at your lazy analysis, especially given your education.
She's gonna need to improve her argument. "I wanna go riding with my boyfriend and I wanna have a baby" aren't convincing. Maybe she should try something with the slightest bit of thought to it.
No, I saying that being obsessed with having a child is common. Eco seems to think it's a warning sign.
I think the point was that the conservatorship that she's under is way too restrictive.They have other goals. Career, education, hobbies, interests. You cannot compare someone who has a ride with their boyfriend and has a baby in the course of life with someone who that is their only stated goals.
If someone says, "I gotta be free because I need a Big Mac!"
Do you argue, "well, who doesn't want a Big Mac?"
No. Can you see why.
I'm not seeing the part about riding with her bf, what I just read in the OP is she wants to get married and have another child. Why do you think she shouldn't be allowed to do that?
The invective against non-fascists has to stop. "Lefties"? Do not say that to my face. Ever. I have already well exceeded my tolerance for insult and verbal abuse from the white right.
However, I will call them whatever I like, as they are treasonous fascists who are threatening my freedom. That's how it works, fascist traitors. But if you call us names, I'll knock your ass out. Capiscono racist nutballs?
I'll give an example of why I think she's nuts.
When someone is trying to get back their autonomy, prove they're competent, they don't claim their passion in life is to have a baby. They don't claim they need autonomy because baby. That's not why sane people, recovered people, stable people, seek autonomy. There's a lot of good reasons to seek autonomy. Career, activism, finances. But to have a baby? No.
Baby can't be the goal. Not once one has been declared nuts. Gotta have a different goal. Thems the rules.
Hmmmm maybe something like.....get married? Or is that loony town too?
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