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Larry David: My dinner with Adolph (1 Viewer)

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"Imagine my surprise when in the spring of 1939 a letter arrived at my house inviting me to dinner at the Old Chancellery with the world’s most reviled man, Adolf Hitler. I had been a vocal critic of his on the radio from the beginning, pretty much predicting everything he was going to do on the road to dictatorship. No one I knew encouraged me to go. “He’s Hitler. He’s a monster.” But eventually I concluded that hate gets us nowhere. I knew I couldn’t change his views, but we need to talk to the other side — even if it has invaded and annexed other countries and committed unspeakable crimes against humanity.

...He was wearing a tan suit with a swastika armband and gave me an enthusiastic greeting that caught me off guard. Frankly, it was a warmer greeting than I normally get from my parents, and it was accompanied by a slap on my back. I found the whole thing quite disarming. I joked that I was surprised to see him in a tan suit because if he wore that out, it would be perceived as un-Führer-like. That amused him to no end, and I realized I’d never seen him laugh before. Suddenly he seemed so human. Here I was, prepared to meet Hitler, the one I’d seen and heard — the public Hitler. But this private Hitler was a completely different animal. And oddly enough, this one seemed more authentic, like this was the real Hitler. The whole thing had my head spinning."

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Man, Maher's getting slammed.
 
Maher hates religion, but he especially hates Islam and Muslims. That aligns him with MAGA to a certain extent.

It's absurd that he says of Trump's Gaza plans, "I told him I thought parts of his plan for Gaza were whacky, but that I had supported him in the idea that Gaza could be Dubai instead of hell." I guess Ethnic cleansing is just whacky and bulldozing a country and turning it into prime real estate is somehow a positive?

Let's not forget Maher's anti-vaxxer nonsense.

And finally, his comments about his dinner with Trump were idiotic. Who cares what Trump is like in private? It's his actual policy agenda that matters.
 
Lol. And Maher's an anti-vaxxer as well as a pal of Kid Rock's? Never having seen him perform, his claim to be 'centrist' seems rather disingenuous.
 
There is no obligation to talk to fascists or anyone else that we don't want to talk to.
 
I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the idea held by Trumpers that Larry David was not acting as a total asshole in "Curb", they thought that was how he really was, that he was one of them.
 
Haha go Larry David. Bill Maher is a hack.
 
j brown's body said:
"Imagine my surprise when in the spring of 1939 a letter arrived at my house inviting me to dinner at the Old Chancellery with the world’s most reviled man, Adolf Hitler. I had been a vocal critic of his on the radio from the beginning, pretty much predicting everything he was going to do on the road to dictatorship. No one I knew encouraged me to go. “He’s Hitler. He’s a monster.” But eventually I concluded that hate gets us nowhere. I knew I couldn’t change his views, but we need to talk to the other side — even if it has invaded and annexed other countries and committed unspeakable crimes against humanity.

...He was wearing a tan suit with a swastika armband and gave me an enthusiastic greeting that caught me off guard. Frankly, it was a warmer greeting than I normally get from my parents, and it was accompanied by a slap on my back. I found the whole thing quite disarming. I joked that I was surprised to see him in a tan suit because if he wore that out, it would be perceived as un-Führer-like. That amused him to no end, and I realized I’d never seen him laugh before. Suddenly he seemed so human. Here I was, prepared to meet Hitler, the one I’d seen and heard — the public Hitler. But this private Hitler was a completely different animal. And oddly enough, this one seemed more authentic, like this was the real Hitler. The whole thing had my head spinning."

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Man, Maher's getting slammed.
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This controversy over Bill Maher having dinner with Trump is one of the dumbest I’ve ever seen. IMO, Larry David, who did good work on Seinfeld, is just another Leftist joke. And Maher is just a joke. Who really cares whether or not he has dinner with Trump? It’s not like Maher matters to anyone’s actual life.

Mark
 
Larry David attacks Maher's idea, which is common among moderates, that his position is the correct one. That a moderate position can be found between sending innocent people to a life sentence in a foreign gulag or not.

Or in David's example, common ground can be found between killing 6 million Jews or not.

The argument to moderation logical fallacy.
 
j brown's body said:
"Imagine my surprise when in the spring of 1939 a letter arrived at my house inviting me to dinner at the Old Chancellery with the world’s most reviled man, Adolf Hitler. I had been a vocal critic of his on the radio from the beginning, pretty much predicting everything he was going to do on the road to dictatorship. No one I knew encouraged me to go. “He’s Hitler. He’s a monster.” But eventually I concluded that hate gets us nowhere. I knew I couldn’t change his views, but we need to talk to the other side — even if it has invaded and annexed other countries and committed unspeakable crimes against humanity.

...He was wearing a tan suit with a swastika armband and gave me an enthusiastic greeting that caught me off guard. Frankly, it was a warmer greeting than I normally get from my parents, and it was accompanied by a slap on my back. I found the whole thing quite disarming. I joked that I was surprised to see him in a tan suit because if he wore that out, it would be perceived as un-Führer-like. That amused him to no end, and I realized I’d never seen him laugh before. Suddenly he seemed so human. Here I was, prepared to meet Hitler, the one I’d seen and heard — the public Hitler. But this private Hitler was a completely different animal. And oddly enough, this one seemed more authentic, like this was the real Hitler. The whole thing had my head spinning."

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Man, Maher's getting slammed.
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It was funny watching Bill's show last Friday because he was visibly upset about another week of backlash. Early on with the panel, the guests could hardly get a word in. He did it (dinner at the WH) yet it didn't sound like it made one bit of difference, except to Bill's credibility.
I just heard a medical update on Marijuana that indicates daily usage contributes heavily to dementia. 🤔
 
Poor Bill Maher does not find it at all funny, no sirree:

www.rawstory.com

'Insulting to 6M dead Jews': Bill Maher escalates public war with Larry David

The war of words between comics Larry David and Bill Maher has become anything but funny.David, one of the creators of the wildly successful "Seinfeld" and "Curb Your Enthusiasm" sitcoms, wrote a satirical op-ed for The New York Times about having dinner with Adolf Hitler, in a not-so-veiled...
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Sven Karma said:
Poor Bill Maher does not find it at all funny, no sirree:

www.rawstory.com

'Insulting to 6M dead Jews': Bill Maher escalates public war with Larry David

The war of words between comics Larry David and Bill Maher has become anything but funny.David, one of the creators of the wildly successful "Seinfeld" and "Curb Your Enthusiasm" sitcoms, wrote a satirical op-ed for The New York Times about having dinner with Adolf Hitler, in a not-so-veiled...
www.rawstory.com www.rawstory.com
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The fellows that Trump sent without due process to spend a lifetime in a foreign gulag were unavailable for comment.
 
Helix said:
There is no obligation to talk to fascists or anyone else that we don't want to talk to.
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Suggest Maher made a wise move.
“Know thy enemy and know yourself; in a hundred battles, you will never be defeated.” - Sun Tzu, a Chinese military general
 
Obviously, Trump is not Hitler or a fascist.
David's real problem is his cultural loathing for the Republican Party voter base.
David is a typical left winger who hates mainstream society, Midwesterners, Southerners, Christians, patriots, wasps, suburbanites, rural folks......
 
Oxnard said:
Suggest Maher made a wise move.
“Know thy enemy and know yourself; in a hundred battles, you will never be defeated.” - Sun Tzu, a Chinese military general
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I do like Sun Tzu. There's a lot to be learned there.
 
Buster Keaton said:
Obviously, Trump is not Hitler or a fascist.
David's real problem is his cultural loathing for the Republican Party voter base.
David is a typical left winger who hates mainstream society, Midwesterners, Southerners, Christians, patriots, wasps, suburbanites, rural folks......
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Personally, I don’t see why anybody cares what Bill Maher or Larry David says or does.
They’re entertainers, nothing more.

Mark
 
j brown's body said:
Man, Maher's getting slammed.
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I would love to have dinner with Trump and confront him face-to-face in non-combative way. Tell him he is a pathological case and needs help. Point out to him he has hurt thousands of people via fraud and deceit.

If Maher was upfront with him I would think that is a grand thing.

The ONLY thing I'd confront Maher on his his surprise that Trump could be charming, gregarious and ingratiating. Pathological narcissists are frequently precisely this. Their skill set very much includes the ability to be all those things to get what they want from an individual they have no more empathy or compassion for than a bug. In fact they can be that way with people they actually disdain and enjoy the notion they are manipulating them, thus are so much more intelligent and clever than they are.
 
Buster Keaton said:
Obviously, Trump is not Hitler or a fascist.
David's real problem is his cultural loathing for the Republican Party voter base.
David is a typical left winger who hates mainstream society, Midwesterners, Southerners, Christians, patriots, wasps, suburbanites, rural folks......
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  1. The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”
  2. The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”
  3. The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”
  4. Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”
  5. Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”
  6. Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”
  7. The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”
  8. The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”
  9. Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”
  10. Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”
  11. Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”
  12. Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”
  13. Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”
  14. Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”

www.openculture.com

Umberto Eco’s List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism

Creative Commons image by Rob Bogaerts, via the National Archives in Holland One of the key questions facing both journalists and loyal oppositions these days is how do we stay honest as euphemisms and trivializations take over the discourse?
www.openculture.com www.openculture.com

Trump hits at least 11 out of 14
 
j brown's body said:
  1. The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”
  2. The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”
  3. The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”
  4. Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”
  5. Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”
  6. Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”
  7. The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”
  8. The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”
  9. Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”
  10. Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”
  11. Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”
  12. Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”
  13. Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”
  14. Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”

www.openculture.com

Umberto Eco’s List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism

Creative Commons image by Rob Bogaerts, via the National Archives in Holland One of the key questions facing both journalists and loyal oppositions these days is how do we stay honest as euphemisms and trivializations take over the discourse?
www.openculture.com www.openculture.com

Trump hits at least 11 out of 14
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but Trump is a moderate
 
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