Large new study has found the risk of myocarditis in men under 40 soars with each dose of a Covid mRNA vaccine

[anatta]

Enough of endless boosters and one sixe fits all mandates for healthy people with low risks!<----my comment

More bad news on Covid vaccines and myocarditis in men under 40 - even as more colleges require booster shots for students

A huge new study has found the risk of serious heart problems called myocarditis in men under 40 soars with each dose of a Covid mRNA vaccine - …

alexberenson.substack.com

A huge new study has found the risk of serious heart problems called myocarditis in men under 40 soars with each dose of a Covid mRNA vaccine - and is sharply higher than the risk from a coronavirus infection itself.

The findings call into sharp question the efforts by American colleges and universities to make their students receive booster shots before returning to school this January - especially since other studies have shown that the risk of post-vaccine myocarditis is concentrated not merely in men under 40 but in those aged 16-25.

The study, which British researchers released in late December, showed that the risk of myocarditis almost doubled after the first Pfizer shot in men under 40. Then it doubled again after the second and doubled again after the third - to almost eight times the baseline risk.

 

[anatta]

risk of myocarditis following sequential COVID-19 vaccinations by age and sex

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.23.21268276v1.full.pdf

 

[snakestretcher]

Enough of endless boosters and one sixe fits all mandates for healthy people with low risks!<----my comment

More bad news on Covid vaccines and myocarditis in men under 40 - even as more colleges require booster shots for students

A huge new study has found the risk of serious heart problems called myocarditis in men under 40 soars with each dose of a Covid mRNA vaccine - …

alexberenson.substack.com

A huge new study has found the risk of serious heart problems called myocarditis in men under 40 soars with each dose of a Covid mRNA vaccine - and is sharply higher than the risk from a coronavirus infection itself.

The findings call into sharp question the efforts by American colleges and universities to make their students receive booster shots before returning to school this January - especially since other studies have shown that the risk of post-vaccine myocarditis is concentrated not merely in men under 40 but in those aged 16-25.

The study, which British researchers released in late December, showed that the risk of myocarditis almost doubled after the first Pfizer shot in men under 40. Then it doubled again after the second and doubled again after the third - to almost eight times the baseline risk.

More Berenson lies. And you bought them. Present a peer-reviewed study and you might be taken seriously. This 'study' is not peer-reviewed.

 

[anatta]

More Berenson lies. And you bought them. Present a peer-reviewed study and you might be taken seriously.

I suggest you look at the pdf I conveniently provided for you -it's an aggregate of these
~~
Institutions
1: Nuffield Department of Primary Health Care Sciences, University of Oxford
2: Wellcome Centre for Human Genetics, University of Oxford
3: Leicester Real World Evidence Unit, Diabetes Research Centre, University of Leicester,
Leicester, UK
4: Usher Institute, University of Edinburgh, Edinburgh, UK
5: Centre for Inflammation Research, University of Edinburgh
6: School of Immunology and Microbial Sciences, King’s College London
7: Nuffield Department of Clinical Neurosciences, University of Oxford,
8: NIHR Biomedical Research Centre, Oxford University Hospitals NHS Trust
9: School of Medicine, University of Nottingham
10: British Heart Foundation Centre of Research Excellence, NIHR Oxford Biomedical Research
Centre, Radcliffe Department of Medicine, University of Oxford, John Radcliffe Hospital, Oxford,
UK
11: BHF/University Centre for Cardiovascular Science, University of Edinburgh, Edinburgh, U

 

[americanwoman]

That comment section sure is a cluster**** of people who think they know it all.

Why bother going to medical school? Karen, who barely graduated high school and has 3 kids, knows more about the human body and vaccines than some doctor ever will.

 

[snakestretcher]

I suggest you look at the pdf I conveniently provided for you -it's an aggregate of these
~~
Institutions
1: Nuffield Department of Primary Health Care Sciences, University of Oxford
2: Wellcome Centre for Human Genetics, University of Oxford
3: Leicester Real World Evidence Unit, Diabetes Research Centre, University of Leicester,
Leicester, UK
4: Usher Institute, University of Edinburgh, Edinburgh, UK
5: Centre for Inflammation Research, University of Edinburgh
6: School of Immunology and Microbial Sciences, King’s College London
7: Nuffield Department of Clinical Neurosciences, University of Oxford,
8: NIHR Biomedical Research Centre, Oxford University Hospitals NHS Trust
9: School of Medicine, University of Nottingham
10: British Heart Foundation Centre of Research Excellence, NIHR Oxford Biomedical Research
Centre, Radcliffe Department of Medicine, University of Oxford, John Radcliffe Hospital, Oxford,
UK
11: BHF/University Centre for Cardiovascular Science, University of Edinburgh, Edinburgh, U

Yes, a cherry-picked 'aggregate'. It has not been peer-reviewed, and that is the crucial part.

 

[Gaius46]

The study appears to come from reputable sources. It is a pre-print and the authors acknowledge potentially significant shortcomings to their methodology.

That said as applied to under 40 males the risk of myocarditis appears to be higher with mRNA vaccination than from infection. However they only compared risks of myocarditis and didn’t factor in overall risk from covid - it does actually kill people under 40 - and the severity of the myocarditis - mild myocarditis is not fatal.

So there isn’t nearly enough here to actually judge risks.

 

[anatta]

Yes, a cherry-picked 'aggregate'. It has not been peer-reviewed, and that is the crucial part.

Great Buddha - do you understand it's a statistical aggregate of those instititional findings?
are you disputing the methodology? math? what?

"peer reviewed" is for an individual study. the samples , the methodology, and the conclusions
This is simply taking reported cases and putting them all into one aggregate finding

I would hardly call those"cherry picked"

 

[anatta]

The study appears to come from reputable sources. It is a pre-print and the authors acknowledge potentially significant shortcomings to their methodology.

That said as applied to under 40 males the risk of myocarditis appears to be higher with mRNA vaccination than from infection. However they only compared risks of myocarditis and didn’t factor in overall risk from covid - it does actually kill people under 40 - and the severity of the myocarditis - mild myocarditis is not fatal.

So there isn’t nearly enough here to actually judge risks.

it does say:
A huge new study has found the risk of serious heart problems called myocarditis in men under 40 soars with each dose of a Covid mRNA vaccine - and is sharply higher than the risk from a coronavirus infection itself.

also
The study also contained some evidence that post-vaccine myocarditis might be more dangerous than other forms of myocarditis.
It showed a trend towards higher death rates in people hospitalized for myocarditis after vaccination compared to other myocarditis cases.

I would have to read the entire study -and the math is probably beyond my ability -but unless these are false claims
it does take that into consideration

 

[snakestretcher]

Great Buddha - do you understand it's a statistical aggregate of those instititional findings?
are you disputing the methodology? math? what?

"peer reviewed" is for an individual study. the samples , the methodology, and the conclusions
This is simply taking reported cases and putting them all into one aggregate finding

I would hardly call those"cherry picked"

Unless this 'study' is peer-reviewed it is no more than a collection of anecdotes; quantity =/= quality. The authors even admit that it has many shortcomings. There are dozens of 'studies' citing Ivermectin as a miracle cure for Covid. India's experience proves otherwise; it was dropped because it doesn't work as claimed.

 

[anatta]

Unless this 'study' is peer-reviewed it is no more than a collection of anecdotes. The authors even admit that it has many shortcomings.

"anecodotes? - you mean reported cases?

 

[HIP56948]

Unless this 'study' is peer-reviewed it is no more than a collection of anecdotes; quantity =/= quality. The authors even admit that it has many shortcomings. There are dozens of 'studies' citing Ivermectin as a miracle cure for Covid. India's experience proves otherwise; it was dropped because it doesn't work as claimed.

Good points. Reminds me of a couple of friends, who play the horses. They come up with these marvelous systems that work for 2 weeks.
After that two weeks. they have very little to say about it except to want to borrow some money from me.

 

[Gateman_Wen]

Enough of endless boosters and one sixe fits all mandates for healthy people with low risks!<----my comment

More bad news on Covid vaccines and myocarditis in men under 40 - even as more colleges require booster shots for students

A huge new study has found the risk of serious heart problems called myocarditis in men under 40 soars with each dose of a Covid mRNA vaccine - …

alexberenson.substack.com

A huge new study has found the risk of serious heart problems called myocarditis in men under 40 soars with each dose of a Covid mRNA vaccine - and is sharply higher than the risk from a coronavirus infection itself.

The findings call into sharp question the efforts by American colleges and universities to make their students receive booster shots before returning to school this January - especially since other studies have shown that the risk of post-vaccine myocarditis is concentrated not merely in men under 40 but in those aged 16-25.

The study, which British researchers released in late December, showed that the risk of myocarditis almost doubled after the first Pfizer shot in men under 40. Then it doubled again after the second and doubled again after the third - to almost eight times the baseline risk.

From the study linked in your ridiculous article with the deliberately blurry chart that you can't read and the link that doesn't work. I searched and found the original paper which I'll link below.

"we confirm and extend our previous findings in more than 42 million persons that the risk
of hospitalization or death from myocarditis following COVID-19 infection is higher than the risk
associated with vaccination in the overall population"

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.23.21268276v1.full.pdf

it's a download.

 

[Gaius46]

it does say:
A huge new study has found the risk of serious heart problems called myocarditis in men under 40 soars with each dose of a Covid mRNA vaccine - and is sharply higher than the risk from a coronavirus infection itself.

also
The study also contained some evidence that post-vaccine myocarditis might be more dangerous than other forms of myocarditis.
It showed a trend towards higher death rates in people hospitalized for myocarditis after vaccination compared to other myocarditis cases.

I would have to read the entire study -and the math is probably beyond my ability -but unless these are false claims
it does take that into consideration

Your quotes are from the guy who wrote the article they aren’t in the study itself.

It’s only 13 pages and mostly easily understandable commentary.

 

[Vern]

Enough of endless boosters and one sixe fits all mandates for healthy people with low risks!<----my comment

More bad news on Covid vaccines and myocarditis in men under 40 - even as more colleges require booster shots for students

A huge new study has found the risk of serious heart problems called myocarditis in men under 40 soars with each dose of a Covid mRNA vaccine - …

alexberenson.substack.com

A huge new study has found the risk of serious heart problems called myocarditis in men under 40 soars with each dose of a Covid mRNA vaccine - and is sharply higher than the risk from a coronavirus infection itself.

The findings call into sharp question the efforts by American colleges and universities to make their students receive booster shots before returning to school this January - especially since other studies have shown that the risk of post-vaccine myocarditis is concentrated not merely in men under 40 but in those aged 16-25.

The study, which British researchers released in late December, showed that the risk of myocarditis almost doubled after the first Pfizer shot in men under 40. Then it doubled again after the second and doubled again after the third - to almost eight times the baseline risk.

oh ana, you once again you have to rely on an "editorial" of questionable veracity to push a narrative. We didnt need a "huge new study". We already had one from Israel (in addition to the data from VAERS). Lets stop right there for just a second. When you post an "editorial" that uses the word "huge" you can already tell its not here to inform you in honest and straight forward manner. The study from Israel used 2.5 million who got the Mrna vaccinie. Is that "huge"? anyhoo, the risks of myocarditis has been known. and not every case of myocarditis is serious as your "editorial" would have you believe. this is from the Israel study.

Initially, 159 potential cases of myocarditis were identified according to ICD-9 codes during the 42 days after receipt of the first vaccine dose. After adjudication, 54 of these cases were deemed to have met the study criteria for a diagnosis of myocarditis. Of these cases, 41 were classified as mild in severity, 12 as intermediate, and 1 as fulminant.

Of the 105 cases that did not meet the study criteria for a diagnosis of myocarditis, 78 were recodings of previous diagnoses of myocarditis without a new event, 16 did not have sufficient available data to meet the diagnostic criteria, and 7 preceded the first vaccine dose; in 4 cases, a diagnosis of a condition other than myocarditis was determined to be more likely

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2110737

So Ana, your "editorial" is lying when it says "The findings call into sharp question the efforts by American colleges and universities to make their students receive booster shots before returning to school this January". Its just trying to scare the people who get their medical advice from Facebook.

 

[BlueTex]

"anecodotes? - you mean reported cases?

What is the incidence of myocarditis for those under 40 BEFORE covid?

 

[Lycanthrope]

Not even Hannity believes this boob.

 

[Lycanthrope]

From the study linked in your ridiculous article with the deliberately blurry chart that you can't read and the link that doesn't work. I searched and found the original paper which I'll link below.

"we confirm and extend our previous findings in more than 42 million persons that the risk
of hospitalization or death from myocarditis following COVID-19 infection is higher than the risk
associated with vaccination in the overall population"

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.23.21268276v1.full.pdf

it's a download.

Thanks for doing the legwork on that. I wasn't about to click on anything with Berenson's name on it.

 

[JMB802]

I suggest you look at the pdf I conveniently provided for you -it's an aggregate of these
~~
Institutions
1: Nuffield Department of Primary Health Care Sciences, University of Oxford
2: Wellcome Centre for Human Genetics, University of Oxford
3: Leicester Real World Evidence Unit, Diabetes Research Centre, University of Leicester,
Leicester, UK
4: Usher Institute, University of Edinburgh, Edinburgh, UK
5: Centre for Inflammation Research, University of Edinburgh
6: School of Immunology and Microbial Sciences, King’s College London
7: Nuffield Department of Clinical Neurosciences, University of Oxford,
8: NIHR Biomedical Research Centre, Oxford University Hospitals NHS Trust
9: School of Medicine, University of Nottingham
10: British Heart Foundation Centre of Research Excellence, NIHR Oxford Biomedical Research
Centre, Radcliffe Department of Medicine, University of Oxford, John Radcliffe Hospital, Oxford,
UK
11: BHF/University Centre for Cardiovascular Science, University of Edinburgh, Edinburgh, U

No, that's not a list of studies. That's a list of the institutions that the authors are affiliated with. Look at the list of authors above your cut and paste.

The data for the study came from the NHS website.

In brief, we used the NHS Immunisation Management Service (NIMS) database, which includes data for all people receiving a COVID-19 vaccine in England.

 

[VySky]

Unless this 'study' is peer-reviewed it is no more than a collection of anecdotes; quantity =/= quality. The authors even admit that it has many shortcomings. There are dozens of 'studies' citing Ivermectin as a miracle cure for Covid. India's experience proves otherwise; it was dropped because it doesn't work as claimed.

The need for all of this to add up in strong here. True dedicated minions

 

[snakestretcher]

The need for all of this to add up in strong here. True dedicated minions

Do you have any idea what you just posted is about? At all?

 

[anatta]

No, that's not a list of studies. That's a list of the institutions that the authors are affiliated with. Look at the list of authors above your cut and paste.

The data for the study came from the NHS website.
In brief, we used the NHS Immunisation Management Service (NIMS) database, which includes data for all people receiving a COVID-19 vaccine in England.

OK and ? are you questioning the results?
For the life of me and the health of young males WHY are we doing vax mandates for those under 40?
And now for KIDS?

The risks are low by population -although there are some with risk factors that need the vaxx
-but heart inflammation IS a real risk for those vaxxed in that group
an we know vaxing doesnt prevent transmission!

 

[snakestretcher]

OK and ? are you questioning the results?
For the life of me and the health of young males WHY are we doing vax mandates for those under 40?
And now for KIDS?

The risks are low by population -although there are some with risk factors that need the vaxx
-but heart inflammation IS a real risk for those vaxxed in that group
an we know vaxing doesnt prevent transmission!

A risk, however slight, remains a risk. Children have died from Covid-19, as have healthy young adults with no underlying adverse health conditions. Vaccination doesn't prevent transmission but, and this is the important part, it greatly reduces the chance of becoming seriously ill and hospitalised.

 

[anatta]

Unless this 'study' is peer-reviewed it is no more than a collection of anecdotes; quantity =/= quality. The authors even admit that it has many shortcomings. There are dozens of 'studies' citing Ivermectin as a miracle cure for Covid. India's experience proves otherwise; it was dropped because it doesn't work as claimed.

at this point Im not going into "alternative" therapeutics. HCQ and other did get good results under early criteria.
But this is vaxxing- not therapeutics

 

[snakestretcher]

at this point Im not going into "alternative" therapeutics. HCQ and other did get good results under early criteria.
But this is vaxxing- not therapeutics

No, HCQ did not get "good results". India dropped that as well as Ivermectin.

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