ocean515
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Most of the responses here amount to "I don't believe it because I don't wanna". Turning a blind eye to corruption because you are in love doesn't fix anything.
Yes, I know. We all heard him relay the story of how he said that to them. And no, he never said it had to do with Burisma, so you're lying.
YOU are the one lying as I never claimed he said it had to do with Burisma.
The accusations would be a violation of the Hobbs act. Threatening to withhold loan guarantees to Ukraine in order to get the prosecutor who was investigating Burisma dismissed.
What part of "family personal gain" do you not understand?
You are dismissed. (see my sig)
~dismissed the Nixon nonsense...it's irrelevant~
I've read the transcript. I don't need anyone to tell me what's in it. There is nothing political in the transcript. Nothing.
Volker's text messages? There were 67 pages of text messages. Have you seen all of them? Or have you only seen the handful that Schiffty released...the ones he thought would support his/your narrative?
And talk about biases...what about YOUR biases that allow you to completely mischaracterize everything you hear?
I'll say it again..."just show me actual factual evidence".
Except when you did.
Quote Originally Posted by dixon01767 View Post
The accusations would be a violation of the Hobbs act. Threatening to withhold loan guarantees to Ukraine in order to get the prosecutor who was investigating Burisma dismissed.
Notice the complete absence of even a mention of Biden. Sooooo where is my assertion that Biden said this? Lying AND too dishonest to admit it.
2 Florida businessmen who helped Giuliani in Ukraine arrested on campaign finance charges
Two foreign-born associates of Rudy Giuliani who gave money to a political action committee supporting President Donald Trump were arrested Wednesday night on criminal charges tied to an alleged effort to influence U.S. politics with illegal campaign contributions.
Igor Fruman and Lev Parnas — who are also both witnesses in the impeachment inquiry being undertaken by House Democrats.
Giuliani, Trump's personal attorney, has previously said that Fruman and Parnas worked with him as part of his dealings in Ukraine that involved efforts to encourage that nation to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son, Hunter. Parnas told The Miami Herald last week that he and Fruman passed information on the Bidens to Giuliani.
The four-count indictment, filed in the Southern District of New York and unsealed Thursday, includes charges of conspiracy, making false statements to the Federal Election Commission and falsification of records. The documents allege an elaborate scheme to help an unnamed Ukrainian government official and a person who is described as having "Russian roots" gain access to U.S. politicians and government officials through campaign contributions in order to advance business and personal financial interests.
"This investigation is about corrupt behavior," William Sweeney, a top official in the FBI's New York office said at a Thursday press conference. "Deliberate law breaking."
"This investigation is about corrupt behavior," William Sweeney, a top official in the FBI's New York office said at a Thursday press conference. "Deliberate law breaking."
Fruman and Parnas are charged with making $325,000 in illegal straw donations to a Trump super PAC, according to the indictment, as well as giving $15,000 to a second committee.
In May 2018, the two men gave $325,000 to the pro-Trump super PAC America First Action through an LLC, Global Energy Producers, the group confirmed to NBC News. That same monthh, Parnas posted photos on Facebook of himself and Fruman with Trump, and with the president's oldest son, Donald Trump Jr.
Except when you did.
Oh, so who were you talking about then? Now you're going to pretend you weren't talking about Biden.
That's called, "Bringing the receipts".
There is no mention in the phone call of anything having to do with political rivals or the 2020 election. That means the entire notion is simply a fantasy...by both the blower and CNN.
I didn't read the rest of the article, but I suspect the rest is pretty much the same. Fantasy.
Seriously...one has to be an idiot to believe this nonsense.
Yes I was talking about Biden AND NO I wasn't alleging that he or anyone else stated what I wrote.
That's called, "Bringing the receipts".
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