No one in this country is above the law. Being a Congress critter doesn't give someone the authority to throw his clout around and exempt himself from a lawful procedure. The guy was a jerk. And continues to be a jerk. I just heard an interview with him on the radio where he said something like this:
Lawfully, Rosa Parks was supposed to sit in the back of the bus.
Then let Rosa Parks refuse to comply with the TSA. Congressmen are not above the law and, in fact, should be held to the highest standard when it comes to obeying them.
As if penetrating the fuselage is the only thing that could go wrong.1. Frangible ammo that won't penetrate the fuselage.
Where did I say that 'armed citizens are utter idiots who'd spray bullets around a crowded plane at random'? If you address what I actually said, maybe we can talk. :roll:2. Assumption that armed citizens are utter idiots who'd spray bullets around a crowded plane at random? :roll: No evidence that this assertion is correct. Existing stats indicate that lawfully armed citizens have an extremely low rate of arrest, or revokation of permit, or shooting the wrong person.
And you're not dead from a terrorist attack.
Ah. Your best chance is to make sure terrorists can't get on the plane, but okay.
Then let Rosa Parks refuse to comply with the TSA. Congressmen are not above the law and, in fact, should be held to the highest standard when it comes to obeying them.
Don't be absurd. He has never claimed he is above the law. He simply believes that the scanners are programmed to go off randomly so that TSA has an excuse to pat down people, and that passengers should have the right to be re-scanned when that happens rather than an intrusive bodily pat down.
When TSA finally relented and let him go through the scanner again, there was no alarm. That means either the scanner WAS set to alarm randomly or it malfunctioned the first time he went through.
Or.......do you suppose they should check the room he was held in to check for where he hid the bomb?
I think he must have implanted it into his knee.
1. Frangible ammo that won't penetrate the fuselage.
2. Assumption that armed citizens are utter idiots who'd spray bullets around a crowded plane at random? :roll: No evidence that this assertion is correct. Existing stats indicate that lawfully armed citizens have an extremely low rate of arrest, or revokation of permit, or shooting the wrong person.
Well, yes, I suppose that's true, but it assumes that a terrorist can reliably be identified as such before he actually attempts to board an aircraft with the intent of using it to commit an act of terrorism. How well has the TSA performed this feat? It seems to me that the TSA has done an excellent job of protecting us against acts of terrorism committed by 3-year-old girls, 95-year-old women, and now, one of our own Senators.
As often as they keep on crying “Wolf!”, do you suppose that, in the event that they actually catch a genuine terrorist, anyone will be foolish enough to believe them?
Not to mention their purposely not profiling to be pc. I remember coming back from Germany less than a month after 9/11 and a man that fit the profile of the attackers walks right through while they spend 20 minutes searching an 80 year old woman in a wheel chair.
What your post shows is that since the TSA was created, there have been 0 hijackings. That seems pretty good, but whether or not it's a situation of causation or just correlation is another story. But your post certainly doesn't take away from the TSA.Are we really better off with the TSA? Here is list of notable US involved Hijackings:
You can't plan fore everything, but we were doing a good job prior to 9/11. We were exposed by measures other than our airport security, and we paid. However, our security had tightened up considerably since the 1970s.
What your post shows is that since the TSA was created, there have been 0 hijackings. That seems pretty good, but whether or not it's a situation of causation or just correlation is another story. But your post certainly doesn't take away from the TSA.
Sure, we were doing 'fine' before them. But your list shows that we were doing perfect after them. I prefer perfect.My point was we were doing fine before they showed up on scene. Also, I believe some of our internal security has fixed these issues, and I don't credit the TSA with those saves. Information I could not find, and won't is the amount of peoples rights violated at airports for the same level of security.
My point was we were doing fine before they showed up on scene.
Well, no, we weren't. And 9/11, which prompted the creation of the TSA, was the last straw.
Sure, we were doing 'fine' before them. But your list shows that we were doing perfect after them. I prefer perfect.
As I said, however, I'm not sure if correlation equals causation, but it's entirely possible that it does. In any case, I don't think being patted down in case I have a bomb is a violation of my rights since I think such a search is reasonable.
You heard it here. With the creation of the TSA, and the stripping of people's rights, we will never be attacked again. If you believe we can be attacked again through our airports, then the TSA is a farce and we went the wrong way with a knee jerk reaction.
Last straw of what? A list of random events which were highly unlikely to start with? People freak out about 9/11, it sucked but get over it already. This **** will happen, a free society is more at risk than an authoritative one due to the free exercise of rights. Comes with the territory. I'd rather face the miniscule probability of terrorism than the government use its force against my rights. Terrorism is a mere probability, government is a daily force.
I'd rather face the miniscule probability of terrorism than the government use its force against my rights. Terrorism is a mere probability, government is a daily force.
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