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Kamala Harris was not appointed as the "border czar"

Ok Kamala didn't fix the border, and trump refused to try. I'm still with Harris.

Still funny that you think this will stick. You'll have to make Americans sit still long enough to explain it without telling the truth about Trump and his rejection of the Lankford bill for the sake of his campaign instead of working toward a solution. Try this complicated explanation, it will sound like the pitiful cry in the wind that it really is. Trump is toast.
 
Apparently the “boarder” bill is irrelevant to discussing the state of the border.
 
Going to the border, while a nice photo op, really isn't necessary for the task of getting Guatamalans to stay in Guatamala.
Of which stated task, she did nothing.
 
He ended it becsuse covid was over
 
Of which stated task, she did nothing.
Personally when I think of border security I think of the Congress that writes the laws and not the vice President of the executive in terms of real responsibility.
 
Ok Kamala didn't fix the border, and trump refused to try. I'm still with Harris.
I think you'll find Trump's record on border crossings is far better than Biden's. In fact, it was the very data the proves this that kept Trump alive during the assassination attempt.

He was turning to face this chart on the screen behind him, and as a result the bullet clipped his ear rather than going through the back of his head:



... now there's almost certainly some puffery in Trump's chart, but any objective analysis of border crossings over the last 8 years shows that things were more under control during the Trump administration than Biden's. It got worse every year under Biden:



Source: https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/nationwide-encounters
 

I don't care. Immigration is at the bottom of my list. MAGA can have the issue by lying about trump stopping the Lankford bill. Outside of MAGA we are saying we want a viable alternative to trump. I'm with Harris.

Do you think Americans are going to sit still long enough to read your chart?
 
And I don't care that you don't care. We're discussing Harris's record on immigration. If you don't care about it, why are you here?
 
Yes, you did, and what I say is that what you said is ridiculous.

Feel free to try and prove me wrong about that.
You didn't say that. You just asked me a question.

Whats going on here is called the literally game. Biden didn't literally call her the border czar.
But she was put in charge of it to a degree.
 
And I don't care that you don't care. We're discussing Harris's record on immigration. If you don't care about it, why are you here?
Because this won't stick as a issue with voters. Don't you have something against Harris that would actually resonate outside of his base? Is this all you got on her? Is anybody listening outside his base? Try and convince her supporters to vote for someone else.
 
Biden ended it on his first day in office... pretty sure COVID was still a thing back then. He then reinstated it later that year and ended it again in 2022.
During the moratorium on MPP, current COVID-19 nonessential travel restrictions — both at the border and in the region — remain in place. But it is unclear what will happen to migrants already enrolled in MPP.
 

Whose mind do you think you are changing? Do you really feel you are that important?
 
The far right has no integrity so they're gonna just lie and lie and lie.

Praise Jesus.
 
I have no idea why Crooked donny trump torpedoed the Biden Border Bill. They should have voted on it.
 
No, it's a weakness for Harris, and you're desperate for it not to be.

You can try to cast immigration as a fringe issue, but it's simply not going to fly as the data says otherwise. Gallup has consistently found immigration to be the single most important non-economic issue with registered voters:



Source: https://news.gallup.com/poll/1675/most-important-problem.aspx
 
Did Biden assign her the task of stemming migration at our southern border?
Nope, root causes of the migration in specific countries.
Nothing, zero, zilch to do with, as you claim "stemming migration at the southern border".

Supervisor to worker - "I need you to hi-lite values greater than 6 in this excel worksheet, from rows 3 through 8
MAGA - "This worker failed! Why aren't values greater than 6 hi-lited in the entire excel workbook?"
 
During the moratorium on MPP, current COVID-19 nonessential travel restrictions — both at the border and in the region — remain in place. But it is unclear what will happen to migrants already enrolled in MPP.

In the 2 months following lifting the Remain-in-Mexico policy the border crossings increased by 29% then 71% .... it's amazing how many essential illegal border crossers there suddenly were!

78,000 in January, 101,000 in February, 178,000 in March.... Border crossings have not been bellow 100,000 in a month for the entirely of Biden's tenure. I can see why you need to disconnect Kamala from it.
 
I read that as steaming migration by addressing the root causes, not actually by dealing with anything at the border.

It won’t matter. People won’t look into it that deeply. The Press will lump her in with border security anyway because that’s how it’s been sold. Disingenuous as it is, it will be a weakness for her in the campaign.
 
Then immigration should be an issue of strength for Kamala this fall. Best of luck with that.
 
Do you even know what an encounter is?
 
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