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Bullseye

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I found Just The Facts does a pretty good job avoiding partisan biases (in both directions); Not only have they proven me correct several times but have corrected my thinking more than a few times.

So, when I came across this article I jfelt ist should be shared.

During the late 1800s when the renowned scientist Louis Pasteur was trying to overturn the medical community’s deadly belief that germs are not communicable, he wrote: “The greatest aberration of the mind is to believe a thing to be, because we desire it.” The results of a scientific survey conducted just after the 2020 presidential election show that voters from across the political spectrum have failed to heed that warning.
The survey, commissioned by Just Facts, reveals that the vast bulk of voters have embraced false and harmful dogmas that accord with their political views. This is a typical consequence of confirmation bias, the human tendency to reflexively accept anything that accords with one’s preexisting beliefs and ignore or twist everything that defies them.
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Take it with however many grains of salt you feel is appropriate.
 
pleasure is more important then truth

its just that truth is needed to get long term future pleasure

without it we end up with only short term pleasure
 
Bullseye said:


reveals that the vast bulk of voters have embraced false and harmful dogmas that accord with their political views. This is a typical consequence of confirmation bias, the human tendency to reflexively accept anything that accords with one’s preexisting beliefs and ignore or twist everything that defies them.
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BE, I think that perfectly explains conservatives obediently attacking the effectiveness of masks and social distancing. Oh and we're also seeing conservatives being afraid of the vaccine in larger numbers than democrats. Keep up the good work.
 
Vern said:
BE, I think that perfectly explains conservatives obediently attacking the effectiveness of masks and social distancing. Oh and we're also seeing conservatives being afraid of the vaccine in larger numbers than democrats. Keep up the good work.
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{/quote] VERN! Long time no see! Too bad it wasn’t longer. Your “Yeah, but vaccines”, non sequitur doesn’t add much to the thread. And I didn’t have to check with Just The Facts to confirm THAT. 🤣
 
Bullseye said:
{/quote] VERN! Long time no see! Too bad it wasn’t longer. Your “Yeah, but vaccines”, non sequitur doesn’t add much to the thread. And I didn’t have to check with Just The Facts to confirm THAT. 🤣
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I dont know BE, I think Ted Nugent would agree with me.
 
Bullseye said:
:rolleyes: 🤣
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BE, I'm pretty sure my point about masks, social distancing and vaccines perfectly illustrated the point that " voters have embraced false and harmful dogmas that accord with their political views." And I cant really think of anything more harmful than what I listed. Those beliefs are actually killing people. Can you tell me who was harmed by not knowing NJ has the highest per capita deaths? I feel bad BE, I know you're desperate to be right about something but as usual you cut and run from the facts.
 
Vern said:
BE, I'm pretty sure my point about masks, social distancing and vaccines perfectly illustrated the point that " voters have embraced false and harmful dogmas that accord with their political views." And I cant really think of anything more harmful than what I listed. Those beliefs are actually killing people. Can you tell me who was harmed by not knowing NJ has the highest per capita deaths? I feel bad BE, I know you're desperate to be right about something but as usual you cut and run from the facts.
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V, I[m pretty sure your blather is a weak attempt to deflect the topic of discussion - the results of the poll. IF you just MUST continue on blathering on about a different topic I suggest you find a thread dedicated to it.
 
Blue Donkey said:
The organization, not website address, is what the poster was correcting you about.
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I’m very familar with the organization. What his point?

Seems pretty clear:
Just Facts is a non-profit institute dedicated to publishing comprehensive, straightforward, and rigorously documented facts about public policy issues. To accomplish this with objectivity and excellence, we use exacting Standards of Credibility to determine what constitutes a fact and what does not.

The vision of Just Facts is to equip people with facts that empower them to make truly informed decisions about important matters. This requires proven facts that accurately and fully convey reality—not pseudo-facts, half-truths, or talking points.
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ETA: Ok, I see it know. JustFacts vs JustTheFacts. Mea Culpa.
 
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Bullseye said:
V, I[m pretty sure your blather is a weak attempt to deflect the topic of discussion - the results of the poll. IF you just MUST continue on blathering on about a different topic I suggest you find a thread dedicated to it.
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poor BE, you posted a "survey" that claims "that the vast bulk of voters have embraced false and harmful dogmas that accord with their political views." I then pointed out conservative beliefs that are actually harmful concerning masks, social distancing and vaccines. These beliefs are actually killing people and . don't worry your "survey' didn't even mention them. I then asked you "how is not knowing NJ has the highest per capita death harmful"?

The phrase "that the vast bulk of voters have embraced false and harmful dogmas that accord with their political views" is not only from the "survey" link but you had it in your OP. the NJ thing was part of the "survey". I'll type this as slowly as possible. that is thread related. There is simply no honest or intelligent way to call it not thread related. But yet you did.
 
Overall, we rate Just Facts Right-Center Biased based on the promotion of information that favors the right. We also rate them Mostly Factual for reporting due to unbalanced fact checks that favor the right.
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Just Facts – Bias and Credibility

RIGHT-CENTER BIAS These media sources are slightly to moderately conservative in bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words
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"reveals that the vast bulk of voters have embraced false and harmful dogmas that accord with their political views."
 
Vern said:
poor BE, you posted a "survey" that claims "that the vast bulk of voters have embraced false and harmful dogmas that accord with their political views." I then pointed out conservative beliefs that are actually harmful concerning masks, social distancing and vaccines. These beliefs are actually killing people and . don't worry your "survey' didn't even mention them. I then asked you "how is not knowing NJ has the highest per capita death harmful"?

The phrase "that the vast bulk of voters have embraced false and harmful dogmas that accord with their political views" is not only from the "survey" link but you had it in your OP. the NJ thing was part of the "survey". I'll type this as slowly as possible. that is thread related. There is simply no honest or intelligent way to call it not thread related. But yet you did.
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Vern said:
poor BE, you posted a "survey" that claims "that the vast bulk of voters have embraced false and harmful dogmas that accord with their political views." I then pointed out conservative beliefs that are actually harmful concerning masks, social distancing and vaccines. These beliefs are actually killing people and . don't worry your "survey' didn't even mention them. I then asked you "how is not knowing NJ has the highest per capita death harmful"?

The phrase "that the vast bulk of voters have embraced false and harmful dogmas that accord with their political views" is not only from the "survey" link but you had it in your OP. the NJ thing was part of the "survey". I'll type this as slowly as possible. that is thread related. There is simply no honest or intelligent way to call it not thread related. But yet you did.
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LOL, poor Vern, you still don’t seem to grasp the theme of the thread, so, you regress to old, haggard arguments about masks, vaccines, etc. Maybe JustFacts should add another question “Liberals continue to fight old battles over and over”.
 
SNOWFLAKE said:
LOL, poor Vern, you still don’t seem to grasp the theme of the thread, so, you regress to old, haggard arguments about masks, vaccines, etc. Maybe JustFacts should add another question “Liberals continue to fight old battles over and over”.
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oh BE, see how you just whine "not thread related" over and over. You do that because there is simply no way for you to discuss my post honestly or intelligently. I gave you actual examples of "voters have embraced false and harmful dogmas that accord with their political views." Thats exactly what your silly thread is about. And republicans are suffering and dying exactly because they "embraced false and harmful dogmas that accord with their political views." And dont forget, I even addressed one of its points that most people dont know that NJ has the highest per capita death rate. How is not knowing than more harmful that your conservative masters discouraging masks, social distancing and vaccines?

Here's a crazy idea BE, tell us what you think the thread is about remembering you posted this "The survey, commissioned by Just Facts, reveals that the vast bulk of voters have embraced false and harmful dogmas that accord with their political views. This is a typical consequence of confirmation bias, the human tendency to reflexively accept anything that accords with one’s preexisting beliefs and ignore or twist everything that defies them" in your OP. I think if you read that blurb over and over, you just might learn something about yourself.
 
Bullseye said:
I found Just The Facts does a pretty good job avoiding partisan biases (in both directions); Not only have they proven me correct several times but have corrected my thinking more than a few times.

So, when I came across this article I jfelt ist should be shared.



Take it with however many grains of salt you feel is appropriate.
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Just the fact is a far right wing click hole
mediabiasfactcheck.com

Just the Facts – Bias and Credibility

QUESTIONABLE SOURCE A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no
mediabiasfactcheck.com mediabiasfactcheck.com
 
Vern said:
oh BE, see how you just whine "not thread related" over and over. You do that because there is simply no way for you to discuss my post honestly or intelligently. I gave you actual examples of "voters have embraced false and harmful dogmas that accord with their political views." Thats exactly what your silly thread is about. And republicans are suffering and dying exactly because they "embraced false and harmful dogmas that accord with their political views." And dont forget, I even addressed one of its points that most people dont know that NJ has the highest per capita death rate. How is not knowing than more harmful that your conservative masters discouraging masks, social distancing and vaccines?

Here's a crazy idea BE, tell us what you think the thread is about remembering you posted this "The survey, commissioned by Just Facts, reveals that the vast bulk of voters have embraced false and harmful dogmas that accord with their political views. This is a typical consequence of confirmation bias, the human tendency to reflexively accept anything that accords with one’s preexisting beliefs and ignore or twist everything that defies them" in your OP. I think if you read that blurb over and over, you just might learn something about yourself.
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check your rebuttal, it looks like you are rebutting me :(
 
Aunt Antifa said:
Just the fact is a far right wing click hole
mediabiasfactcheck.com

Just the Facts – Bias and Credibility

QUESTIONABLE SOURCE A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no
mediabiasfactcheck.com mediabiasfactcheck.com
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Stunning and insight analysis! Only one problem - you searched for the wrong website.

Here’s that real review:
These media sources are slightly to moderately conservative in bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor conservative causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information, but may require further investigation. See all Right-Center sources.


  • Overall, we rate Just Facts Right-Center Biased based on the promotion of information that favors the right. We also rate them Mostly Factual for reporting due to unbalanced fact checks that favor the right.
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Bullseye said:
Stunning and insight analysis! Only one problem - you searched for the wrong website.

Here’s that real review:
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But BE, I responded to the correct link and exactly what you put in your OP and you still whine that my posts are not thread related. It looks you wont respond honestly or intelligently.
Bullseye said:
LOL, poor Vern, you still don’t seem to grasp the theme of the thread, so, you regress to old, haggard arguments about masks, vaccines, etc. Maybe JustFacts should add another question “Liberals continue to fight old battles over and over”.
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Vern said:
oh BE, see how you just whine "not thread related" over and over. You do that because there is simply no way for you to discuss my post honestly or intelligently. I gave you actual examples of "voters have embraced false and harmful dogmas that accord with their political views." Thats exactly what your silly thread is about. And republicans are suffering and dying exactly because they "embraced false and harmful dogmas that accord with their political views." And dont forget, I even addressed one of its points that most people dont know that NJ has the highest per capita death rate. How is not knowing than more harmful that your conservative masters discouraging masks, social distancing and vaccines?

Here's a crazy idea BE, tell us what you think the thread is about remembering you posted this "The survey, commissioned by Just Facts, reveals that the vast bulk of voters have embraced false and harmful dogmas that accord with their political views. This is a typical consequence of confirmation bias, the human tendency to reflexively accept anything that accords with one’s preexisting beliefs and ignore or twist everything that defies them" in your OP. I think if you read that blurb over and over, you just might learn something about yourself.
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Bullseye said:
I found Just The Facts does a pretty good job avoiding partisan biases (in both directions); Not only have they proven me correct several times but have corrected my thinking more than a few times.

So, when I came across this article I jfelt ist should be shared.



Take it with however many grains of salt you feel is appropriate.
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Thanks for the pointer Bullseye.
What caught my eye was this part:

Results by Ideology of Falsehood​

Among questions in which the wrong answers accorded with partisan agendas, an average of 57% of answers were liberally misinformed, while 28% were conservatively misinformed. In other words, voters were twice as likely to believe certain progressive myths than conservative ones.

For all 10 of the questions in which the electorate was most deluded, the wrong answers they gave concurred with progressive narratives propagated by the media. Moreover, the false answers they gave were often far removed from reality, not just slightly mistaken. For example, 66% of voters thought that doubling the federal minimum wage to $15 per hour would raise the average income of families in poverty by 25% or more. The real figure is about 1%.
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Seems we'd have better informed electorate if the 'news' (political activist) media would report facts rather than politically driven progressive narratives, apparently. 🤷‍♂️
 
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