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Judge to woman in rape case: 'Why couldn't you just keep your knees together?'

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Canadian Judge Robin Camp to woman in rape case: 'Why couldn't you just keep your knees together' - CNN.com

(CNN)A judge in Canada is facing removal from the bench for his conduct when he asked a woman in a rape case why she couldn't "just keep [her] knees together."Federal Court Judge Robin Camp is in the midst of a week-long judicial council hearing, which will determine whether he ought to be booted from his position.
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I wonder if this judge found himself in prison, if he'd be able to keep his mouth closed and his butt-cheeks together?

It's truly outrageous and I sure hope he loses his job. What a jack-hole.

Sad thing is, I'd bet there's plenty of people who silently think the same way.
 
Dragonfly said:
Canadian Judge Robin Camp to woman in rape case: 'Why couldn't you just keep your knees together' - CNN.com




I wonder if this judge found himself in prison, if he'd be able to keep his mouth closed and his butt-cheeks together?

It's truly outrageous and I sure hope he loses his job. What a jack-hole.

Sad thing is, I'd bet there's plenty of people who silently think the same way.
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yes

this judge is done

it is sad and I agree, many feel the same way...it's all the woman's fault...lots right here in this forum
 
eohrnberger said:
Yeah, that just doesn't seem right in the least.
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This is old, way old.

There was a just a story on CBC last week how the judge has "got it" through sensitivity training, and has directly apologized to the woman. Heard him as background saying he had no idea, and wow and whatever.....

Jails aren't necessary when you can convince people to change, He learned a good lesson, and taught one as well, in humility.
 
Don't forget, judges are just lawyers in funny clothes. They are one in the same. They just have different responsibilities.
 
Fearandloathing said:
This is old, way old.

There was a just a story on CBC last week how the judge has "got it" through sensitivity training, and has directly apologized to the woman. Heard him as background saying he had no idea, and wow and whatever.....

Jails aren't necessary when you can convince people to change, He learned a good lesson, and taught one as well, in humility.
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Well, addressed and resolved then. Didn't think our good friends to the North would allow such an opinion to remain on the bench for very long.
Change the opinion. Did and done.
 
This is just as stupid as the anti-gun crowd saying you should vomit or pee on the guy if you're about to be raped.
 
After the hearing Monday, the panel will send its recommendation about Camp's future to the full Canadian Judicial Council.
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It's NOT over according to story.

Apparently he's still employed as a judge.
 
eohrnberger said:
Well, addressed and resolved then. Didn't think our good friends to the North would allow such an opinion to remain on the bench for very long.
Change the opinion. Did and done.
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That was why I had such trouble with this thread, i thought "wtf again?"

There was an abominable outrage at the time, demands he be fired instantly. The activist industry wanted blood on the floor! I recall an activist harshly rampaging the guy and the CBC moderator asked her about Canada's ethic of recovery over punishment, [the official name escape me, but 15 years ago we expanded the meaning of "community court" to address the issue of the same first nations being jailed for the same crime again and again] and shouldn't the same mercy-based justice be allowed him as well? It kind of shut everyone up.
I also know his OT, occupational therapist - person to bitch at - was a non-nonsense first nations woman with a law degree who was a victim of "residential school" [probably a victim of systemic rape] the most horrible scar on our nation's landscape; no one could be more fitting to lead someone through a path of forgiveness and understanding.

That too is Canada
 
Fearandloathing said:
That was why I had such trouble with this thread, i thought "wtf again?"

There was an abominable outrage at the time, demands he be fired instantly. The activist industry wanted blood on the floor! I recall an activist harshly rampaging the guy and the CBC moderator asked her about Canada's ethic of recovery over punishment, [the official name escape me, but 15 years ago we expanded the meaning of "community court" to address the issue of the same first nations being jailed for the same crime again and again] and shouldn't the same mercy-based justice be allowed him as well? It kind of shut everyone up.
I also know his OT, occupational therapist - person to bitch at - was a non-nonsense first nations woman with a law degree who was a victim of "residential school" [probably a victim of systemic rape] the most horrible scar on our nation's landscape; no one could be more fitting to lead someone through a path of forgiveness and understanding.

That too is Canada
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Perhaps the dark and vocal minority?
 
Fearandloathing said:
That was why I had such trouble with this thread, i thought "wtf again?"
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Did you miss the post just prior to your last one?

It's not "over" or "resolved" yet.

He's not lost his job yet.

At the moment he's still a judge.

"After the hearing Monday, the panel will send its recommendation about Camp's future to the full Canadian Judicial Council."
 
Fearandloathing said:
That was why I had such trouble with this thread, i thought "wtf again?"

There was an abominable outrage at the time, demands he be fired instantly. The activist industry wanted blood on the floor! I recall an activist harshly rampaging the guy and the CBC moderator asked her about Canada's ethic of recovery over punishment, [the official name escape me, but 15 years ago we expanded the meaning of "community court" to address the issue of the same first nations being jailed for the same crime again and again] and shouldn't the same mercy-based justice be allowed him as well? It kind of shut everyone up.
I also know his OT, occupational therapist - person to bitch at - was a non-nonsense first nations woman with a law degree who was a victim of "residential school" [probably a victim of systemic rape] the most horrible scar on our nation's landscape; no one could be more fitting to lead someone through a path of forgiveness and understanding.

That too is Canada
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nothing is ever "quite as it seems"

counsellor and client perfection
 
Dragonfly said:
Canadian Judge Robin Camp to woman in rape case: 'Why couldn't you just keep your knees together' - CNN.com




I wonder if this judge found himself in prison, if he'd be able to keep his mouth closed and his butt-cheeks together?

It's truly outrageous and I sure hope he loses his job. What a jack-hole.

Sad thing is, I'd bet there's plenty of people who silently think the same way.
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I wonder what kind of rape it was. Not too long ago rape required force or threats of force but not any longer. So, before I'd get my knickers in a twist, I'd want to know the details.
 
Dragonfly said:
It's NOT over according to story.

Apparently he's still employed as a judge.
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And he will continue to be. He has taken sensitivity training, he has apologized and his superiors are confident he won't make another mistake.

We don't punish people for mistakes, we correct them. Now make the effort to search the story so don't post anymore embarassingly stupid posts like that
 
_Sal said:
nothing is ever "quite as it seems"

counsellor and client perfection
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The original article was accurate to a point, being that it was brief and about a very complex case. The rape case itself was complex because there was no clear "no" in her testimony. Further, the young victim had had no lawyer present, the judge had intervened in questioning because a rather harsh cross examination by the defense.

Again, at the time it was THE NEWS. Ironically I was going to start a thread with it, but then it's Canada and some people get pissed off and all that.

I just wish people would do a bit of their own research. It's clear why Trump is on the steps of the White House, too many Americans believe what they are told without even bothering to look for a second source.
 
Fearandloathing said:
The original article was accurate to a point, being that it was brief and about a very complex case. The rape case itself was complex because there was no clear "no" in her testimony. Further, the young victim had had no lawyer present, the judge had intervened in questioning because a rather harsh cross examination by the defense.

Again, at the time it was THE NEWS. Ironically I was going to start a thread with it, but then it's Canada and some people get pissed off and all that.

I just wish people would do a bit of their own research. It's clear why Trump is on the steps of the White House, too many Americans believe what they are told without even bothering to look for a second source.
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I like the fact that the judge responded well to further information. That is a problem today, first getting accurate information and then our ability/willingness to process it and change accordingly.
 
_Sal said:
I like the fact that the judge responded well to further information. That is a problem today, first getting accurate information and then our ability/willingness to process it and change accordingly.
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He gave a brief interview in a CBC segment, about two weeks ago. I was impressed with him saying he still had a lot to learn. Such humility is rare in the legal profession, and damn near non existent with all-powerful judges.
 
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